If you haven’t already, be sure to read Chapter 1 of our saga: http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-bike-thief-chapter-1-its
My many years of living in the ghetto have left their mark in the form of a general distrust involving a constant reckoning of danger, the sizing up of each and every passerby and, most importantly to our story, a hands-on manner of dealing with crime which requires being properly armed.
So, gentle reader, I admit only now that I had readied the canister immediately after phoning the police, popped the safety before giving chase and had held the weapon with both hands, at arms length and pointed directly at the face of the Bike Thief throughout the entirety of my shouted instructions.
The cone of the spray is reminiscent of a small fire extinguisher. It diminishes to a 5’ x 5’ cloud at maybe 20’ from the nozzle. (You should not wish to be in this cloud.) The Bike Thief was standing approximately 7’ away and it seemed to me not a drop of the jet made it past his face.
He turned from me, wiping his face, spitting. Then, angry, he turned and advanced at me AGAIN.
hit at a closer range of 5’. This time it seemed as I must be pumping the stuff directly down his trachea and slowly filling his lungs.
“Sir… Are you THERE, Sir?” the dispatcher asked impatiently. I assured her that, praise be to Allah, I was. I slowly and calmly relayed the information from my original call along with an update in regards to the BikeThief’s bright orange hue and direction of travel. She indicated she would pass the information on to the police. “I sure would appreciate that” I stammered, uncertain as to whether I was being sincere or sarcastic.
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Good point, but imagine the hassle explaining all that to a police officer on how the perp got stiffed, legal fees, and not to mention the guy's next-of-kin coming out of the woodwork looking to cash in on wrongful death suits.
Todd Allen said:TC didn't spray him for attempting to flee. He sprayed because he was being charged. At that point it is self defense. I'd expect that to greatly lessen the risk of any criminal charges or conviction.
And this wasn't intended to be vigilante justice, the cops had been called.
mike w. said:i don't feel very sorry for the thief, but i'm guessing TC is lucky that the guy didn't have asthma. An attack could've been fatal. i for one would hate to do time for offing a crook...
About the only real problem with administering greaser justice (as we used to call it back in the day...) is that it often makes the thief sneakier and meaner rather than reformed.
Ryan said:The only thing more amazing than this story would be if Mr. T.C. O'Rourke had been wielding dual bear pepper spray bottles. One for each eye.
Question: Can the stuff cause permanent damage? I hope so.
You're right, he totally should have just let the guy attack him with whatever he had in his pocket; that would have been a much better idea.
Of course none of this ever would have happened if it TC wasn't a total jerk and all concerned with somebody not getting their bike stolen...
mike w. said:Good point, but imagine the hassle explaining all that to a police officer on how the perp got stiffed, legal fees, and not to mention the guy's next-of-kin coming out of the woodwork looking to cash in on wrongful death suits.
Todd Allen said:TC didn't spray him for attempting to flee. He sprayed because he was being charged. At that point it is self defense. I'd expect that to greatly lessen the risk of any criminal charges or conviction.
And this wasn't intended to be vigilante justice, the cops had been called.
mike w. said:i don't feel very sorry for the thief, but i'm guessing TC is lucky that the guy didn't have asthma. An attack could've been fatal. i for one would hate to do time for offing a crook...
About the only real problem with administering greaser justice (as we used to call it back in the day...) is that it often makes the thief sneakier and meaner rather than reformed.
Ryan said:The only thing more amazing than this story would be if Mr. T.C. O'Rourke had been wielding dual bear pepper spray bottles. One for each eye.
Question: Can the stuff cause permanent damage? I hope so.
Mike, you still don't understand. The guy didn't get sprayed because he stole a bike. He got sprayed because he charged.
So the answer is clearly the bike is not worth the dirtbag's life, but TC's life clearly is worth risking the other guy's life with a defense weapon that the police themselves also happen to use on non-violent protestors.
This is pretty much what I have would have said.
TC did the right thing and ended up in a situation where he really did not have a choice of what to do because he had no idea what the guy had in his pocket; turning to run if a guy has a strap is never the best choice because it's only going to get you back shot.
Todd Allen said:Mike, you still don't understand. The guy didn't get sprayed because he stole a bike. He got sprayed because he charged.
So the answer is clearly the bike is not worth the dirtbag's life, but TC's life clearly is worth risking the other guy's life with a defense weapon that the police themselves also happen to use on non-violent protestors.
TC didn't spray him for attempting to flee. He sprayed because he was being charged. At that point it is self defense. I'd expect that to greatly lessen the risk of any criminal charges or conviction.
And this wasn't intended to be vigilante justice, the cops had been called.
mike w. said:i don't feel very sorry for the thief, but i'm guessing TC is lucky that the guy didn't have asthma. An attack could've been fatal. i for one would hate to do time for offing a crook...
About the only real problem with administering greaser justice (as we used to call it back in the day...) is that it often makes the thief sneakier and meaner rather than reformed.
Ryan said:The only thing more amazing than this story would be if Mr. T.C. O'Rourke had been wielding dual bear pepper spray bottles. One for each eye.
Question: Can the stuff cause permanent damage? I hope so.
Who knew there was an Apple fanboi in the extended O'Rourke family . . .
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