I don't ride it often, but it seems to be an invite for pedestrian-bike collisions.
It's invisible if you approach mid-block, and walkers step right into the path of the bikes.
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My message and ped responses have been similar. The only time I yell at someone is when they obviously see me but still stand right in front of me and block my path, or if they say something rude. My usual response then is in a louder, more urgent voice, but along the lines of "Please step BACK. This is a traffic lane, NOT a sidewalk."
Maurice said:
My standard response is, "please don't stand/walk in the bike lane." I don't ride that way if I'm in a hurry, so my responses are never angry.
The pedestrians usually ignore my request, though they occasionally apologize. Only one guy tried to pick a fight.
Anne Alt said:For a while, I've been using polite but firm requests for people to step back, or wait before stepping off the curb.
You guys are much friendlier than I am. I usually bark, "Heads up!" :)
But I will try the gentler approach. We are all sharing this planet as humans.
Over time, I'm finding that peds respond better to polite requests. I'm a big believer in positive reinforcement. If someone looks and waits at the curb without being asked, I often say "thank you."
I'm also noticing that many frequent flyers are paying more attention and NOT stepping into the lane to wait, or they step beyond the bike lane, in line with the parking lane.
Running into this problem over and over does try one's patience. I've found that, the more often I use courtesy and positive reinforcement, the less often I have conflicts in the lane.
Alex Z said:
You guys are much friendlier than I am. I usually bark, "Heads up!" :)
But I will try the gentler approach. We are all sharing this planet as humans.
My experiences dovetail with others here. I find it a great way to get through the loop but the poorly timed lights and the pedestrians in the bike path make it less efficient than desired.
I wonder if large signs posted just across from where the peds wait to cross..in other words on the outer edge of the lane at the corners, would help.
Thoughts?
I'm not sure if large signs across the street would be beneficial. With so many people looking down at their phones, I have more hope for "LOOK BIKES" in huge letters on the pavement.
Timing of lights and ped blockage does make Dearborn less efficient. However, this also keeps speeds down, which makes it safer. That's a double edged sword, for sure.
jolondon30 said:
My experiences dovetail with others here. I find it a great way to get through the loop but the poorly timed lights and the pedestrians in the bike path make it less efficient than desired.
I wonder if large signs posted just across from where the peds wait to cross..in other words on the outer edge of the lane at the corners, would help.
Thoughts?
Agreed. Also, the lane gets a lot of use. Bikes ride by often enough that there really should not be much of a surprise for everybody else. Most of the people who are regularly in the loop have figured out that there is always bike traffic on Dearborn. Most have adapted. Things get bad when emigres from the suburbs and beyond make one of their rare appearances in the loop and are confounded by something new. As the holidays and the Christkindlemarket beckon, there will be problems. This is always the case near the Goodman where people who are not often downtown try to figure out how to cross the bike lane to get to the theater. I think bike riders will have to realize this and make a decision to slow down. LaSalle certainly is not an option as it's a mess right now. As Anne mentioned, we will be better off with, "Happy holidays, bike coming..." rather than "Get the @#% outta da way!"
Anne Alt said:
Over time, I'm finding that peds respond better to polite requests. I'm a big believer in positive reinforcement. If someone looks and waits at the curb without being asked, I often say "thank you."
I'm also noticing that many frequent flyers are paying more attention and NOT stepping into the lane to wait, or they step beyond the bike lane, in line with the parking lane.
Running into this problem over and over does try one's patience. I've found that, the more often I use courtesy and positive reinforcement, the less often I have conflicts in the lane.
Alex Z said:You guys are much friendlier than I am. I usually bark, "Heads up!" :)
But I will try the gentler approach. We are all sharing this planet as humans.
Heading north out of the loop for my return commute used to be quite harrowing. Those few blocks on LaSalle were always sporting. The Dearborn lane may not be perfect but it feels way safer going slow watching for ped vs competing with car traffic.
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