Automated Driving Safety Survey for Bikes and Peds

Oregon State University has this survey to see how scared/unscared you are of automated cars. Take it, if you have the guts. 

http://oregonstate.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3CQwgWUjucRruG9

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Permalink Reply by Douglas Price on April 19, 2018 at 4:00am

Interesting. My only real concern is communicating with the vehicle as a cyclist, otherwise, if they follow laws and are outfitted with comprehensive sensors, they should do a much better job of paying attention than a human.

Permalink Reply by mike w. on April 19, 2018 at 8:03am

My general concern is how well will all the sensors/detectors/cameras function in foul weather? Think about snow storms, icing, and general muck that cakes on a car.

 They may work well enough when the weather is fair and dry, but how about in a downpour or blizzard?

Permalink Reply by Douglas Price on April 20, 2018 at 5:26am

Presumably, they'll slow to speeds the conditions allow. Visual sensors are generally inside the cabin behind the windscreen, so the wipers would clear them. Radar is generally unaffected, IR cameras can make use of rotating windows like a ship, and LIDAR data can be effectively filtered to remove the noise from snow/rain.

The biggest plus I see is that the car has no ego. It doesn't have to prove that it's a hardened (insert any region in which it snows) driver that doesn't need to slow down for no stinkin' blizzard.

Permalink Reply by Argonne69 on April 20, 2018 at 9:33am

In theory they should work fine provided that the sensors aren't covered in mud/snow. 'No worse than the a**hats that drive around in their cars covered in snow with 4 square inches of windshield cleared.

Permalink Reply by mike w. on April 21, 2018 at 3:45am

All that technology...

So many things vulnerable to glitches...

"Presumably, they'll slow to speeds the conditions allow." -Big presumption.

i predict that autonomous cars will have a hard time catching on: they will obey speed limits.

Taking ego out of the equation will take the "enjoyment" out of the "driving experience."

Permalink Reply by Argonne69 on April 21, 2018 at 9:38am

Enjoyment of driving? You mean sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic for 90 minutes coming in from the airport? Mindless stop and go traffic in the city? No thanks. I'll gladly turn over the duties of urban driving to the computers to I can catch up on some reading, or take a short nap.

Now, put me on a twisty road in the mountains with a six speed and we're talking a different animal. That's driving.

Permalink Reply by Paul Lazzaro on April 21, 2018 at 12:25pm

But mostly that exists in car commercials, not IRL...

Permalink Reply by Fran Kondorf on April 20, 2018 at 5:49pm

Can't take it- women only now.

I, for one, welcome the advent of our new robotic, motorized overlords.

 But only if they're equipped with sensors that cause them to stop immediately when we scream for our lives if we're endangered.

Permalink Reply by Filka Bean on April 21, 2018 at 5:11pm

Ha, the survey is limited to women only now... i thought you meant that you couldn't stand any more of this discussion!

I am a little skeptical after the Tempe crash. Less ego sounds like an improvement but if they don't pay attention to their own lidar?

That said, it'd be neat if by the time i retire in 20 years, i could sell my house and buy an all-electric robot RV that will putter from one campsite to the next while i ride my bike.

Permalink Reply by Douglas Price on April 23, 2018 at 4:23am

Well, I'll say that as much as I'm excited about the rise of automated cars, I hope Uber isn't a part of it. Move fast and break things doesn't carry when those things are human beings.

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