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I look out for bad cars.  Nissan Murano, toyota carollas, Saturns, older Korean cars (new ones are quite good), pretty much any mini van and most SUVs...

Also poorly modified cars.  Stylish alignments, slammed suspension, big fart cans that are clearly just cat-backs, any autozone accessory stuck on the car, clear or blacked out tail lights, etc...

If your car says "I have no interest in driving" (or I have interest but no clue) then you are most likely not interested in driving or anything related to it, including how you're driving it.  That frightens me more than speed racer in his german Nurburgring wannabe sled most of the time.  Jerk or not.  Anecdotally, I believe that aggressive and fast driving causes less accidents than distracted and ignorant driving.  Aggressive drivers are at least typically looking far down the road, distracted/careless drivers aren't looking anywhere. 

Mike, the problem isn't owning an Audi. As long as you never drive it you'll be fine. ;)

Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles said:

As one who owns an Audi, you hit the nail on the head.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

Love this thread. It gives us a venue to make stereotypical, fact-less generalizations about others.

I know an excellent VW/Audi tech.  Best in Chicago.  WrenchWorksAudi (847)612-4654

Specializes in ze German stuff, but he's a wiz mechanic and can fix anything. 

He also buys old VW's and Audis if any of you have clunkers to unload.

Evan, the article linked on the initial post is clear about what behaviors were part of the research. It's certainly interesting.


Evan said:

We can, however, observe that the state of class exists even if it is not defined by driving behavior or is even well delineated. 

Additionally, what makes this thread even more ambiguous is that "unethically" has not been defined....do you mean non-Vegan drivers?  DWDMP = Driving while digesting meat products


Sarah D. 1-3.3 said:

But there's a study!!

;)



Duppie 13.5185km said:

Love this thread. It gives us a venue to make stereotypical, fact-less generalizations about others.

Anyone see top gear the other night? Jeremy Clarkson bought a bicycle.

This is the shirt he wears :)

He drives a Mercedes

+1

Good and bad  traffic manners appear to be relatively evenly distributed across the spectra of society.

Serge Lubomudrov said:

Hmm . . . I don't know. The actual experiments with drivers not yielding on an intersection were conducted, as I understand, in California, near San Francisco. It is a bit different there. In my experience, Chicago is one of the rudest cities I've been to (that is, people here are, whether in their pedestrian, cyclist or driving roles). It seems to me, the reckless driving here is more evenly distributed among different socioeconomic statuses (or classes, if you prefer). I have been cut off by all kind of cars, just as I saw all kind of cars waiting for me to pass before making a right turn. A guy in a Porsche convertible stands out and is more memorable just because he's in a Porsche.

Lighten up, Francis.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

Love this thread. It gives us a venue to make stereotypical, fact-less generalizations about others.

Love it! Plenty of supporting links too.

David P. said:

you can probably thank Ayn Rand for those kinds of people.

Jeff Schneider said:

Assuming by "upper class" you mean affluent, I won't venture a guess about the verity of this proposition.  However, I will say that I am much more annoyed by affluent people behaving in an ignorant or discourteous manner.  If you have the wealth to become educated, there's no reason to remain ignorant; if you have the wealth to live comfortably, you should appreciate your good fortune and make at least a small effort to treat others well.

+1

Serge Lubomudrov said:

Well said, Jeff. Sadly, it seldom works that way.

Jeff Schneider said:

Assuming by "upper class" you mean affluent, I won't venture a guess about the verity of this proposition.  However, I will say that I am much more annoyed by affluent people behaving in an ignorant or discourteous manner.  If you have the wealth to become educated, there's no reason to remain ignorant; if you have the wealth to live comfortably, you should appreciate your good fortune and make at least a small effort to treat others well.

Hmmm what kind of car is this guy driving.

Chi Lowe 12.5+ mi said:

Laws, as they are called, are for the little people.

Meet the guy who stood, passenger door open, fixing his hair in the reflection of his window in the bike lane.  When I was forced to stop (because his standing caused southbound cyclist to salmon around him), I explained that he was blocking the lane, and that is illegal.  He told me that he knows it is illegal, and he doesn't care.  Then he walked away, leaving his car in the lane.

He called back to me to call the cops, and if said if they get there and ticket him before "his guy" comes to move his car, that's okay with him.  I did, and 12 minutes later, his "guy" showed up to move his car - no cops.

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