LFT Separation Ardmore to Montrose

The planned bike path route has many sharp turns and detours closer to the lake.  This doesn't seem very realistic.  If this is enforced, I may take streets south to Montrose and pick up the LFT there.  I don't think this is what the public had in mind for the trail separation project.

https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/sites/default/files/documents/l...

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Permalink Reply by Mark on December 28, 2017 at 4:53am
Permalink Reply by Douglas Price on December 28, 2017 at 6:08am

Those sharp turns are connections from the street, not a replacement for what's already there. The detours are maybe a bit much, but I doubt they'll add as much time as a stoplight will.

Permalink Reply by Brian S on December 28, 2017 at 5:15pm

I typically take this.  It's WAY BETTER.

First, it's nice to actually be close to the lakeshore when on the drive instead of just pedaling parallel to the highway. I get on at Bryn Mawr and seeing the lake right there is my favorite part.  The time is not terribly different from the existing path.

The second issue is that the street conflicts between Montrose and Ardmore are bad, esp. Montrose.  Having to figure out whose turn it is to go is always crappy.

It's easy to get out and try it now.

(and what "the public had in mind".... did the public have much in mind?  Wasn't this mostly built because the money came?)

Permalink Reply by Mike Schwab on December 28, 2017 at 8:40pm

Not sure why that link won't work.  I searched google and came up with the entire construction list.  https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/lakefront-trail and click the link.

Yeah, some of those underpass approaches look awfully sharp.  But they are pretty much sticking with the original route.  Crossing Simonds Dr near Foster looks like a problem, if Simonds is busy.  Like the new trail crossing Lawrence ave.  Hope it isn't too busy or they put in a bridge.  Changing the Wilson underpass approaches looks bad.  Make sure they put in a wide turn there.  Wish the northbound trail would go straight over Monstrose to join the trail on the other side instead of swinging down to the underpass.  

Permalink Reply by John Greenfield on January 2, 2018 at 3:50am

The new Ardmore to Montrose bike route will add about half a mile to the trip: https://chi.streetsblog.org/2017/09/19/ardmore-montrose-trail-plan-...

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Permalink Reply by Douglas Price on January 2, 2018 at 8:06am

That’s 2 minutes at 15mph or 90 seconds at 20mph which is probably made up by not waiting for pedestrians. 

Permalink Reply by Allan on January 6, 2018 at 3:30am

I'm a little behind the times, on hearing that's what they'll do between Montrose and Ardmore. Wouldn't be surprised, if when I was trying to save time and there weren't a lot of people out walking or running, went on biking the old route. Don't get me wrong, I have walked(more than I have biked) the proposed new route, and like that too. But it is only a half additional mile, so maybe I'll adapt to this.

Any schedule on when construction of this portion, will start? The streetsblog article I looked at that was linked to, didn't say anything about when construction may possibly start on this new segment. Unless I missed it somewhere, and I looked for that info to no avail. Anyone know?

Permalink Reply by Velo Celt on January 13, 2018 at 3:24pm

At least you don't have to worry about being literally arms-length away from speeding cars going over 60 mph on Lakeshore Drive like sections of the new trail will have you doing on the south end. 

Permalink Reply by Eric Pounder on May 10, 2018 at 9:02am

You mean to say you're not happy about the new bike lane on LSD?

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Permalink Reply by Mark on May 7, 2018 at 4:05am
Permalink Reply by Brian S on May 8, 2018 at 12:39am

I despise taking the cyclists path in that stretch (North - Fullerton). Coming southbound, you are looking at cars and less than 15 ft away from a major highway. The jogging path is much quieter (less car noise) and more pleasant. 

Let's not be too harsh on joggers on the upper path, since we'll probably expect some consideration for when cyclists take the jogging path, whatever the reason.

Permalink Reply by Tricolor on May 9, 2018 at 11:03am

And worse, that path is very narrow with deep sand on either side. In a few places you could even tumble into Lake Shore Drive. Also there's fencing so you have to go around a bit if you want to cross the pedestrian bridge.

I'm expecting a lot of congestion there this summer.

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