Upper Class Drivers More Likely To Drive Unethically

Just confirming what we already know.

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Permalink Reply by Davo on July 19, 2013 at 10:10am

And this one.

Permalink Reply by Davo on July 19, 2013 at 10:32am

To be fair... I don't know the make of this car.

Permalink Reply by Sean Newby on July 19, 2013 at 10:40am

Mercedes-Benz. CLS 500. With that attitude I'm surprised he doesn't have vanity tags.

Permalink Reply by Andrew Bedno on July 19, 2013 at 11:03am

1. My son always says if you're gonna get hit, let it be by an expensive car.  They have the best insurance.

2. This reminds me how we need an easy to use shaming system.


3. Google auto-complete knows what's what: 

Permalink Reply by Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles on July 19, 2013 at 12:29pm

(sarcasm)Ohh, okay. So if I drive my rusty 18 year old, 360000.0 mile F150, I'll be viewed differently? I won't be looked upon as douche? Maybe looked on as a redneck? What about if I drive my Wrangler? It's newer than the Audi.(sarcasm)

I went through this, regarding euro sport sedans, with a guy on FGG a long time ago.

Tony Adams 7 mi (dirtbag hipstr) said:

Mike, the problem isn't owning an Audi. As long as you never drive it you'll be fine. ;)

Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles said:

As one who owns an Audi, you hit the nail on the head.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

Love this thread. It gives us a venue to make stereotypical, fact-less generalizations about others.

Permalink Reply by David P. on July 19, 2013 at 1:17pm

When I drive my beige, automatic, 4-door Honda Accord I become totally invisible, so no one is able to form any kind of impression of me. It also comes with a pair of pleated khakis and polo shirt and a map to the suburban golf club.

Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles said:

(sarcasm)Ohh, okay. So if I drive my rusty 18 year old, 360000.0 mile F150, I'll be viewed differently? I won't be looked upon as douche? Maybe looked on as a redneck? What about if I drive my Wrangler? It's newer than the Audi.(sarcasm)

I went through this, regarding euro sport sedans, with a guy on FGG a long time ago.

Tony Adams 7 mi (dirtbag hipstr) said:

Mike, the problem isn't owning an Audi. As long as you never drive it you'll be fine. ;)

Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles said:

As one who owns an Audi, you hit the nail on the head.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

Love this thread. It gives us a venue to make stereotypical, fact-less generalizations about others.

Permalink Reply by T.K. 3.5 mi on July 19, 2013 at 2:06pm

I wanted to chime into this discussion and denounce these pretentious statements against every car owner, but then I saw a new commercial for the 2014 Scion tC titled "King of the Coupe" and had to fuel the fire for a brief moment.

In standard auto fashion, the car is shown speeding around a city with music and narration. At one point the car approaches 3 cyclists in the road, and the narrator says "...help you avoid all of the obstacles...". The driver is shown shifting gears as he darts around the cyclists, or 'obstacles'. All of my searches for it on the internet have been unsuccessful... except for this: http://www.scion.com/blog/2013/07/02/the-2014-scion-tc-commercial/

"Scion sincerely apologizes to members of the bicycling community that might have been offended by a recent advertisement. It was certainly not our intention to do so as Scion has great respect for bicyclists. Scion is sensitive to your opinion and in response, has made the decision to remove the advertisement.

Your feedback is appreciated as it is through communications such as yours that we become aware of our customers’ expectations and reactions. It also provides us with valuable insight when developing future advertising strategies.

If you have any further questions or comments, call us toll free at 1-866-70-SCION, Monday-Friday 5am-6pm PST and Saturdays 7am-4pm PST.

Thank you for your interest in Scion."

Great stuff! I wonder who contacted them. Sorry if this was already posted elsewhere on the forums.

Regardless, some chainlinkers would still benefit from focusing their frustrations into something more positive for the community and our relationship with automobiles. The conflicts between the two aren't going away anytime soon. 

Permalink Reply by Sarah D. on July 19, 2013 at 3:07pm
That is great - kudos to Scion.

T.K. 6.5 mi said:

I wanted to chime into this discussion and denounce these pretentious statements against every car owner, but then I saw a new commercial for the 2014 Scion tC titled "King of the Coupe" and had to fuel the fire for a brief moment.

In standard auto fashion, the car is shown speeding around a city with music and narration. At one point the car approaches 3 cyclists in the road, and the narrator says "...help you avoid all of the obstacles...". The driver is shown shifting gears as he darts around the cyclists, or 'obstacles'. All of my searches for it on the internet have been unsuccessful... except for this: http://www.scion.com/blog/2013/07/02/the-2014-scion-tc-commercial/

"Scion sincerely apologizes to members of the bicycling community that might have been offended by a recent advertisement. It was certainly not our intention to do so as Scion has great respect for bicyclists. Scion is sensitive to your opinion and in response, has made the decision to remove the advertisement.

Your feedback is appreciated as it is through communications such as yours that we become aware of our customers’ expectations and reactions. It also provides us with valuable insight when developing future advertising strategies.

If you have any further questions or comments, call us toll free at 1-866-70-SCION, Monday-Friday 5am-6pm PST and Saturdays 7am-4pm PST.

Thank you for your interest in Scion."

Great stuff! I wonder who contacted them. Sorry if this was already posted elsewhere on the forums.

Regardless, some chainlinkers would still benefit from focusing their frustrations into something more positive for the community and our relationship with automobiles. The conflicts between the two aren't going away anytime soon. 

Permalink Reply by SLR on July 19, 2013 at 3:39pm

People do what they do because it benefits them.

You have two choices:

1) Make it so it doesn't benefit them. This usually involves breaking the law and generates more hatred between motorists and cyclists.

2) Take control of your feelings and your experience on the road. Expect that the majority of motorists will actively disregard you. Ride accordingly. Don't get upset when you see it, because you knew it was going to happen. If you're an aggressive biker then you can swerve around cars parked in the bike lane, and if you're not then you have to expect to make unforeseen stops as a consequence of your riding style. Either way, know what to expect, and that way you are in control of your own experience.

Judgments about types of people and types of cars are irrelevant. It's about you and whether or not you're enjoying biking. And if other people are interfering with your ability enjoy one of your passions, then you need to figure out a way to take control.

Permalink Reply by Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles on July 20, 2013 at 2:35am

Ok, that caused coffee to come out my nose.

David P. said:

When I drive my beige, automatic, 4-door Honda Accord I become totally invisible, so no one is able to form any kind of impression of me. It also comes with a pair of pleated khakis and polo shirt and a map to the suburban golf club.

Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles said:

(sarcasm)Ohh, okay. So if I drive my rusty 18 year old, 360000.0 mile F150, I'll be viewed differently? I won't be looked upon as douche? Maybe looked on as a redneck? What about if I drive my Wrangler? It's newer than the Audi.(sarcasm)

I went through this, regarding euro sport sedans, with a guy on FGG a long time ago.

Tony Adams 7 mi (dirtbag hipstr) said:

Mike, the problem isn't owning an Audi. As long as you never drive it you'll be fine. ;)

Mike Bullis 5.5-6.5 miles said:

As one who owns an Audi, you hit the nail on the head.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

Love this thread. It gives us a venue to make stereotypical, fact-less generalizations about others.

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