Gin Kilgore takes on The Suburban Cyclist tonight at 7 on WTTW

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Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on October 2, 2011 at 7:35pm

The guy's 15 minutes of fame have to be up very soon.

Do you think it's really in our best interest to reward the Trib with the controversy they were aiming for?

 

If we really feel a need to challenge this guy, we should so so via offense rather than defense.

 

How about a media-focusing event of some sort to call attention to dangerous and bad advice in his book?

 

Anne Alt said:

The Trib ran Scott Rowan's blog piece on the front of today's Perspective section.  I think that deserves a bit of follow-up.  Perhaps some well-reasoned letters to the editor are in order.

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Permalink Reply by Angie Maloney on October 2, 2011 at 8:38pm

This (Sub) Urban Cyclist guy just had a toned-down version of his rant printed on the front page of the Perspectives section in today's Trib:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-oped-1002-bicycle-201...

 

Also, the show is now available on WTTW's website:

http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2011/09/29/critical-mass-urban-cycling

 

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Permalink Reply by Gort 12-mile Pinklegneep on October 2, 2011 at 8:51pm

Svenghoolie's a city boy and the studio's downtown, his show's just always said "Berwyn" a lot because it's a funny name and he made it a pillar of schtick. Of course his act clicks right in place with Horrorbles, which is in Berwyn.

Davo said:

dont forget Sven Ghoulie. His studio is in Berwin I think.

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Permalink Reply by Bernard Joseph Hannigan on October 2, 2011 at 8:55pm

"Of course his act clicks right in place with Horrorbles, which is in Berwyn."....

 

The owner of Horribles is one of the owners of Autre Monde, one of the hottest

new restaurants in Chicagoland.

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Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on October 2, 2011 at 10:34pm

Steve Dahl used to do a schtick about a housewife from Berwyn back in the 70s, with there being a negative connotation implied about Berwyn. I think Svengoulie was just picking up on that meme.

I don't see much potential for this thread to get back on topic, and there's a new one about the WGN bit scheduled for tomorrow morning.

Peenworm Grubologist said:

Svenghoolie's a city boy and the studio's downtown, his show's just always said "Berwyn" a lot because it's a funny name and he made it a pillar of schtick. Of course his act clicks right in place with Horrorbles, which is in Berwyn.

Davo said:

dont forget Sven Ghoulie. His studio is in Berwin I think.

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Permalink Reply by Liz on October 3, 2011 at 9:05am

I would also love to see bike the drive encompass the WHOLE DAY.  Shutting down LSD from 5am to 10am on a Sunday is not a huge feat. The traffic typically seen at that time of day is minimal.  Let us have one whole car free day or at least into Midday.  The chicago marathon closes many street for significant portions of the day, 5k/10k/half marathon run/walks close streets all over the city throughout the summer. Letting cycling events close the streets should not be controversial. 

Chris C said:

I don't know about once a month but I would love to see the Bike The Drive ride occur more than once a year. 

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Permalink Reply by globalguy on October 3, 2011 at 9:45am

And definitely reduce the $40+ registration fee to bike along a tax-payer supported, public thoroughfare!

Liz said:

I would also love to see bike the drive encompass the WHOLE DAY.  Shutting down LSD from 5am to 10am on a Sunday is not a huge feat. The traffic typically seen at that time of day is minimal.  Let us have one whole car free day or at least into Midday.  The chicago marathon closes many street for significant portions of the day, 5k/10k/half marathon run/walks close streets all over the city throughout the summer. Letting cycling events close the streets should not be controversial. 

Chris C said:

I don't know about once a month but I would love to see the Bike The Drive ride occur more than once a year. 

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Permalink Reply by Jared on October 3, 2011 at 9:51am

It doesn't really cost all that much to put on Bike the Drive.  The vast majority of that fee goes to Active Trans.  It would be nice if they could do it twice a year and reduce the fee.

da' Square Wheelman (aka garth) said:

And definitely reduce the $40+ registration fee to bike along a tax-payer supported, public thoroughfare!

Liz said:

I would also love to see bike the drive encompass the WHOLE DAY.  Shutting down LSD from 5am to 10am on a Sunday is not a huge feat. The traffic typically seen at that time of day is minimal.  Let us have one whole car free day or at least into Midday.  The chicago marathon closes many street for significant portions of the day, 5k/10k/half marathon run/walks close streets all over the city throughout the summer. Letting cycling events close the streets should not be controversial. 

Chris C said:

I don't know about once a month but I would love to see the Bike The Drive ride occur more than once a year. 

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Permalink Reply by Liz on October 3, 2011 at 10:22am

Thanks for the recommendation! 

 

I liked the authors discussion of how drivers forgive one another for infractions.  

 

We see a very vocal contingent of anti cycling motorists and pedestrians going on and on about the one time they had a accident or serious incident with a cyclist.  We do not see this same level of outrage over motor vehicle collosion.  Many more people have been involved in a car colision than a bike collision.  There isn't the same outrage about how unsafe driving is. 

 

Edit: Woohoo, my boyfriend already has a copy, I'll be sure to give the whole book a read. 

Jamais716 said:

Check out Traffic - http://www.amazon.com/Traffic-Drive-What-Says-About/dp/0307264785

 

It's a really interesting read for anybody on the road.  He explains that part of why we get more frustrated in a car is our inability to communicate with others on the road.  Check out pages 22-24 in the Amazon preview for a much better explanation than I could possibly give.


Liz said:

 

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Permalink Reply by Duppie on October 3, 2011 at 12:38pm

Apparently not all ChicagoNow bloggers are dimwits. Here is one blog post disecting the Suburban Cyclists rant:

http://www.chicagonow.com/easy-as-riding-a-bike/2011/10/critical-mi...

 

I think he makes a good point. Regardless of what your opinion is about CCM, the Suburban Cyclist does nothing to further the acceptance of cycling, even though he wants us to believe otherwise.

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Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on October 3, 2011 at 12:43pm

I know it's a little much to ask that one read a whole discussion before replying, when a discussion is pushing 80+ replies, but this was discussed on the second or third page and the point was made that there are substantial costs Active Trans has to foot in order to make BTD happen. It's just not fair to suggest there's something inappropriate about them charging for their big annual fundraiser.

If you have a beef that you can't ride on LSD even though it's a "public thoroughfare" and you "pay taxes", take it up with the city.

Jared said:

It doesn't really cost all that much to put on Bike the Drive.  The vast majority of that fee goes to Active Trans.  It would be nice if they could do it twice a year and reduce the fee.

da' Square Wheelman (aka garth) said:

And definitely reduce the $40+ registration fee to bike along a tax-payer supported, public thoroughfare!

Liz said:

I would also love to see bike the drive encompass the WHOLE DAY.  Shutting down LSD from 5am to 10am on a Sunday is not a huge feat. The traffic typically seen at that time of day is minimal.  Let us have one whole car free day or at least into Midday.  The chicago marathon closes many street for significant portions of the day, 5k/10k/half marathon run/walks close streets all over the city throughout the summer. Letting cycling events close the streets should not be controversial. 

Chris C said:

I don't know about once a month but I would love to see the Bike The Drive ride occur more than once a year. 

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Permalink Reply by Duppie on October 3, 2011 at 1:28pm

*like*

Chris C said:

I have no problem paying $40 for BtD.  It is, after all, a fund raiser for a non-profit organization.

 

Hands down it's my favorite charity ride.  Between the sun rising over the lake to the east and the architectural skyline to the west, I feel like the creamy center filling of the mother of all sandwich cookies.

 

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