Lube without teflon and petrochemicals?  Looks promising.  Anyone use it?
http://www.green-oil.net/

article on what's in chain lube:
http://www.theecologist.org/green_green_living/behind_the_label/269...

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Ezra Hozinsky said:
arms-to-the-poor >

Now THAT is something I can get behind. Where can we send money to buy arms for the poor? HK's for the Homeless?
Put away the toilet paper and re-read your attitude:

"I have no affiliation with any Tea Party or any incarnation thereof, I have no interest in becoming affiliated with the aforementioned as it offers precious nothing that might benefit me, nor do I own a motorized vehicle. Furthermore, I do not subscribe to any belief in the supernatural of any sort including, but not limited to, Judeo-Christianity and its various subsidiaries."

Why so terrified?

I haven't been consistently preaching disregard and pigeonholing. You have.
Finally....I was afraid the name calling would never start, but you saved the day for me. Thanks!


Michael Perz said:
Where did you find me copping to unabashed selfishness, you little turd? I recall stating nothing of the sort.

Ezra Hozinsky said:
Well, aren't you strong! Congratulations on admitting to everyone that you need nothing nor care for anything of this world except that which directly benefits you! A model citizen if I've ever seen one, so long as you're still in diapers.
Great. Wherein lies the proclamation of selfishness? Is it the part about the Tea Party not having anything to offer that I find beneficial? Had I said, "I don't have a dog in their fight," would you accuse me of condoning animal cruelty? I wouldn't find it surprising considering you can't even get your grammatical pedantry in order.


Ezra Hozinsky said:
Put away the toilet paper and re-read your attitude:

"I have no affiliation with any Tea Party or any incarnation thereof, I have no interest in becoming affiliated with the aforementioned as it offers precious nothing that might benefit me, nor do I own a motorized vehicle. Furthermore, I do not subscribe to any belief in the supernatural of any sort including, but not limited to, Judeo-Christianity and its various subsidiaries."

Why so terrified?

I haven't been consistently preaching disregard and pigeonholing. You have.
Hmm. More spurious and/or questionable language use.

James Baum said:
Chain lube "theories" and religion have EVERYTHING to do with each other. And it's the way it has always been since WAY before Al Gore invented the internet.
I think maybe he was talking about me?

Michael Perz said:
Where did you find me copping to unabashed selfishness, you little turd? I recall stating nothing of the sort.

Ezra Hozinsky said:
Well, aren't you strong! Congratulations on admitting to everyone that you need nothing nor care for anything of this world except that which directly benefits you! A model citizen if I've ever seen one, so long as you're still in diapers.
...nor a belief in God (not that that's expected or even a topic on the table) nor motorized vehicles, nor the toxicity of the products you happily spray on your bike, nor belief in scientific method, nor belief in community (in a broad sense, one that includes strangers, etc.).

It's your pervasive attitude that's disturbing me and probably other here, too.

Incidentally, I believe you mean linguistic pedantry, not grammatical. Figures of speech and idiomatic expressions aren't typically thought of as grammatical elements, but rather as elements of cultural linguistics. I would more likely accuse you of mixing metaphors. You know, it's syntactical miscegenation that's ruining this country, regardless of how slippery those sinners can be.

Michael Perz said:
Great. Wherein lies the proclamation of selfishness? Is it the part about the Tea Party not having anything to offer that I find beneficial? Had I said, "I don't have a dog in their fight," would you accuse me of condoning animal cruelty? I wouldn't find it surprising considering you can't even get your grammatical pedantry in order.
Ezra Hozinsky said:
Put away the toilet paper and re-read your attitude:

"I have no affiliation with any Tea Party or any incarnation thereof, I have no interest in becoming affiliated with the aforementioned as it offers precious nothing that might benefit me, nor do I own a motorized vehicle. Furthermore, I do not subscribe to any belief in the supernatural of any sort including, but not limited to, Judeo-Christianity and its various subsidiaries." Why so terrified?

I haven't been consistently preaching disregard and pigeonholing. You have.
Ezra Hozinsky said:
.. It's your pervasive attitude that's disturbing me and probably other here, too.


Oh, NO!

Someone on the internet does not think as I do and his pervasive attitude must be STOPPED.

That's every bit as refreshing coming from the Left as it is from a racist homophobe on the Right. "You are evil/wrong and your words must be stomped on and your ideas extinguished before you have a chance to corrupt others into your evil "lifestyle" choices..."

Give me a break.
Linguistic pedantry. How will I live with myself forever knowing I tripped up in my haste to type a reply.

By the way, unless you intended some horrible pun my usage of peddling was correct.

Ezra Hozinsky said:
...nor a belief in God (not that that's expected or even a topic on the table) nor motorized vehicles, nor the toxicity of the products you happily spray on your bike, nor belief in scientific method, nor belief in community (in a broad sense, one that includes strangers, etc.).

It's your pervasive attitude that's disturbing me and probably other here, too.

Incidentally, I believe you mean linguistic pedantry, not grammatical. Figures of speech and idiomatic expressions aren't typically thought of as grammatical elements, but rather as elements of cultural linguistics. I would more likely accuse you of mixing metaphors. You know, it's syntactical miscegenation that's ruining this country, regardless of how slippery those sinners can be.

Michael Perz said:
Great. Wherein lies the proclamation of selfishness? Is it the part about the Tea Party not having anything to offer that I find beneficial? Had I said, "I don't have a dog in their fight," would you accuse me of condoning animal cruelty? I wouldn't find it surprising considering you can't even get your grammatical pedantry in order.
Ezra Hozinsky said:
Put away the toilet paper and re-read your attitude:

"I have no affiliation with any Tea Party or any incarnation thereof, I have no interest in becoming affiliated with the aforementioned as it offers precious nothing that might benefit me, nor do I own a motorized vehicle. Furthermore, I do not subscribe to any belief in the supernatural of any sort including, but not limited to, Judeo-Christianity and its various subsidiaries." Why so terrified?

I haven't been consistently preaching disregard and pigeonholing. You have.
None. What is in the Gulf is crude oil direct from beneath the earth's crust. It still needs to be refined to be used in a manner that would be deemed useful.

Thank you.

Pablo said:
How many chains could we lube with the oil that was spilled in the Gulf of Mexico?
"How many words.....does you know?"

Crude oil from the Gulf Spill tm would work just fine on a bike chain. It's a fairly light & sweet grade right out of the ground in that area, and would make a decent chain oil right out of the burst pipeline as long as you stayed away from the more volatile parts which dissipate fairly quickly once it hits the atmosphere.

Light sweet oil was used in a Canadian pipeline back during WW2 to actually POWER the diesel engines that pumped the oil to the end of the pipeline. There wasn't any power sources for miles so they came up with a plan to use the oil in the pipeline to run diesel pumps along the way. It was that good that they could burn it straight out of the ground.

The crude that was in the gulf wasn't that good, but it'd work on a chain to keep it lubed. It's not rocket science here -it just has to be a little bit slippery to help with the metal/metal contact within the inside of the chain. It's not a 20,000RPM racing engine with specific requirements. It's a friggin bike chain.

Thank you.

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:
None. What is in the Gulf is crude oil direct from beneath the earth's crust. It still needs to be refined to be used in a manner that would be deemed useful.
Thank you.

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