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You blew the red light east bound on Lawrence at Damen at 5:26 pm this evening.

 

There was enough time for the biker in front of me to make it half way into the intersection, northbound on Damen, before you came whizzing past my front wheel.

 

I yelled "You're an idiot!" at your big haired chick, self, and you looked back at me. I meant it!

 

I woulda testified for any of the cars, that managed to not kill you, if they had.

 

Keep riding like a tard!

love,

gabe

 

Witness bad behavior during your commute? Feel free to post. Maybe that lovely human can read it and think they are famous. Maybe you can also inspire the whole generation of kids to shower but we can start with small things.

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Because I know how to read. So when an article describes how a motorist swerving to avoid a cyclist loses control and kills a pedestrian, yeah, that's on the cyclist.Just like it's on a motorist if a cyclist gets injured avoiding a car making a right turn on red, or any one of a thousand stupid things.

You clearly have demonstrated that you think your s*** doesn't stink, and you know more than the rest of the civilized world put together, so I have no delusions of trying to change your behavior. Most of what you describe is IMO perfectly acceptable.

That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about why drivers give cyclists the finger as they pass with a few inches to spare, or swerve into the bike lane, or hit the accelerator to get in front of us for no apparent reason, or write angry op-ed pieces yelling about how "none of you cyclists obey the rules!", it's the cyclists like you they are venting at. The ones who they think are just rubbing it in their nose by showing them that red lights don't apply to them.

That was the original point here, debunking this notion that one's behavior doesn't impact their fellow cyclists. Because here's the thing - I come to a stop at a red light, and I know for a fact I'm not causing any problems. You can't say the same thing about your approach. Now if we really want to get into the weeds, sure, I'd be happy to agree that late nights are different. Drivers are often impaired, there are less of them altogether, and you gotta do what you gotta do to stay safe.

But stopping at red lights is like wearing a seat belt or having health insurance. You don't do it just because it is good for you, you do it because it's good for everyone, like getting a flu shot.

We'll see if you're still here 10 years from now, maybe you'll have learned something.

What article says that?  You keep talking about this cyclist caused car fatality but you do not reference any specific incident; considering the number of people cars kill if this was any kind of real problem you should have no issue finding evidence of the issue...

Do you honestly think people who pass close and act like maniacs towards cyclist are doing it because somebody ran a stop sign in front of them or because they are just an angry a-hole of a human?  I am going with angry a-hole... 

Articles about law-breaking cyclists are, in my opinion, less about actual wrong doing and more about people having a need to rationalize their anger over people who use transportation different than their own. 

In 10 years I will be exactly the same...

I fear that "scofflaw" behavior by bicyclists is so ingrained in our culture that it is a permanent feature of the traffic landscape. Shaming certainly doesn't work. A long-term public education program similar to "drivers education" might help, starting at an early age. I think many riders retain a memory of their early cycling years when a bicycle was considered a "toy", and never develop the appreciation for the seriousness of riding in traffic. What I think *would* help is active law enforcement of traffic laws. If cyclists had a credible basis to think they could be ticketed, have their bike impounded, or at least be inconvenienced... the tide might be turned. Sadly, I do not think this is likely to happen anytime soon.

 i believe that drivers' education is what's really called for. Sadly, i don't think that is likely to happen any time soon.

If motorists had a credible basis to think they could be ticketed, have their vehicles impounded, or at least be inconvenienced...

At least not in the City of Chicago.

I run lights and stop signs or jump lights because my goal is to make it from point A to point B is quick as possible with the highest preservation of momentum and without causing another road user to deviate from their path.

You are looking way, way to deep into it; people knowingly run lights because they want to get there quicker regardless of what mode of transportation they are using.

In other words, you are every bit the same thing as a self absorbed driver.

Or entirely not because part of my goal is not interfering with other road users...

But if you want to just blindly judge strager's state of mid based on one arbitrary thing I guess that's cool too.

I run red lights because it's safer than sitting at the intersection waiting to get rear-ended by a driver on their phone.

Funny how I only ever get yelled at and honked at when I actually follow traffic laws...

Here’s some food for thought re: safety and traffic laws.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-cyclists-risk-death-by-obe...

Personally I tend to think the irrationally angry motorists are... irrational. I don’t blame them: if i was convinced i needed to sit in a box for an hour staring into one gridlocked intersection after another, while smirking cyclists flowed through one after another, i’d be a very unhappy person too.

Well, that too, of course. I see motorists running red lights on a fairly regular basis without any penalties.

Dear driver on North Ave with a blunt in one hand and a phone in the other, I didn't stop in the middle of the intersection and let you turn in front of me because I was feeling gracious, I did it because I want to live.

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