Red means stop

One thing that irks me are other cyclists that don't follow the rules. These are the cyclists that give all others who do, a bad name.

Guy at the end... I ended up catching with him. Was it worth it running red lights and a stop sign?

Are you a red light/stop sign runner?

And if so, why?

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Permalink Reply by Jim Reho on May 9, 2018 at 12:12pm

Myself, I'm with Jean-Paul Sartre:

"When we say that man chooses himself, not only do we mean that each of us must choose himself, but also that in choosing himself, he is choosing for all men. In fact, in creating the man each of us wills ourselves to be, there is not a single one of our actions that does not at the same time create an image of man as we think he ought to be."

Permalink Reply by Matt Talbert on May 10, 2018 at 9:51am

I never had an incident where I have told a cyclist to respect the red lights and get the response of "well, yes, stopping at red lights would we a splendid idea." Unfortunately, you just aren't going to change the behavior of others with a call out, so I stopped doing that years ago.

Permalink Reply by Carter O'Brien on May 10, 2018 at 10:00am

Agreed. At this point I only call out when my actual & immediate safety warrants it. Doing otherwise would have ruined my vocal cords beyond repair decades ago.

Permalink Reply by Mark on May 10, 2018 at 10:29am

The only thing I call out on now is when I get passed on the right.

Permalink Reply by Carter O'Brien on May 10, 2018 at 10:46am

Completely justifiable.

Permalink Reply by Brian S on May 25, 2018 at 6:03am

No offense, but if you get passed on the right, that means you didn't move to the right at the first opportunity. The person passing you would be in their right to call you out for hogging the passing lane.

;)

Permalink Reply by John Durham on May 25, 2018 at 6:42am

You can fuck right off with that bullshit.  

My GF rides down Wells and when she rides out of the door zone she gets people trying to pass on the right.  Jackasses passing on the right because she "didn't move to the right fast enough" after passing peds on the LFP.  Shit like that.  Don't do it. 

It's called traffic. Slow the fuck down and pass on the left. If you have to merge in with auto traffic to make the pass, do so. If you can't, or don't want to do that ride behind. 

Permalink Reply by Yasmeen on May 25, 2018 at 6:47am

YUP! I have the same thing happen to me. Don't pass on the right. It's dangerous and startling - especially when the right-passing fool can't bother to call out their presence.

Permalink Reply by Brian S on May 25, 2018 at 6:49am

Passing on the right in a door zone is ridiculous, I concur. Passing without calling out that you're about to do so is also ridiculous.

That being said, I often pass on the right when folks are being pokey on the left side of a curbside bike lane. And I feel no guilt about it.

Permalink Reply by Maurice on May 29, 2018 at 8:47am

It's not possible to pass safely on the right IN A DOOR ZONE . . . but there are other instances where it's a much better option than pulling into auto traffic.

 

For example, if a DIVVY is stopped on the left side of an otherwise empty right turn lane, chances are extremely high that I will pass in a very safe manner on the right when the light turns green.

Permalink Reply by curt(is) locke on May 26, 2018 at 4:42am

Brian punctuates his observation with a wink and you respond with wholesale hostility? What's your problem, John? And you don't really need to reply to me with a stream of F-bombs laced with other delights.

Permalink Reply by David Barish on May 11, 2018 at 10:09am

This threadlet is interesting. Do you  call  out? I agree with the negative sentiment. I don't call out the annoying. I might shake my head, but to  myself.  When I  see a rider where  I question  whether  his/her riding  is  suicidal I  usually, sotto voce say a  prayer such as, "Dude, I  hope you  get home in one piece." If I find the riding  is  homicidal rather than suicidal I  am  more  likely to speak up.  Although such  riding is extremely rare we have all seen that rider. I  assume the instinct to  keep  quiet is a good practice as long  as  concealed carry  is the  law of the land. I am much  more accepting  of  bad behavior on and off of the bike.

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