Hello. You, male biker on a road bike with Brooks saddle and pannier, and I got into an argument this morning. I want to explain my behavior and apologize. I did hear your bell behind me. I also just had passed a car leaving a parking space. I didn’t know what your bell indicated. I ring my bell for lots of reasons: to give a “heads up” to pedestrians; to alert a driver with a car door open; and to bring a smile to a child’s face. Even though I had ear buds in - awaiting a call from a surgeon - I heard your bell. I just didn’t know what it meant. When you passed, I was surprised and - likely curtly - asked for an “on your left”. You stated that you rang your bell and that was enough. I was taken aback - first by fear of hitting another biker and secondly by your angry response. I also noted your anger with my ear buds - likely not directed just at me.
The stop sign approached. I know that I didn’t have the right of way, but I made a judgment call. Stop at a stop sign where an angry male was awaiting me or go through the stop out of turn. I went. I was shaking from our exchange at Lake. You approached me again, yelling at my biking. I turned onto Washington and did what I always do - follow traffic laws the rest of the way.
I am am fully accountable for my choices and behavior. I’m sorry that I yelled cursory language at you as you biked off down Clinton. I also am sorry to the drivers of cars and others. I am embarrassed. I value everyone’s lives and safety. I violated my own values. It’s hard to sit with.
But I ask you to consider this: As a woman biker in Chicago - 25 years and counting - I am used to being harassed by male pedestrians, drivers and bikers alike. I arrive to work scared about once every three weeks and it has nothing to do with my biking. I call my husband crying, and he listens. I take a few days off, walking to work, and then try again.
Im not saying that you were going to harm me. It’s just scary out there, and I wanted to offer another perspective.
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She really doesn't need to 'plain it to you and the "chain of events" anymore than what she already has shared here in a public forum. Your need to judge her here is now more curious. What's that about? aLex owned her own culpability in her narrative, why is that not enough for you? Your parsing and picking apart her story suggests issues of yours that have little to do with this incident. File under "Male Fragility"?
Owned, absolved herself, whatever.
When the actual details of "what/where/when" don't add up, it hurts the credibility and understanding of the "why".
What's that between your neck and your helmet?
Whatever, indeed.
There’s a hilarious video in the making here if anyone has a deli number dispenser they’ll lend me...
For what it's worth and not to belabor this, but a bell is NOT exactly the same as "on your left" -- there's a lot of ambiguity with a bell.
IMO, the bell merely signals "i'm here." Usually, that's enough.
Yep, you're here, I'm aware.
It doesn't matter if the bell is dinged to make a kid smile or to let me know someone's there, if a bell is heard that usually means that a bicycle is on the move somewhere around me, and I should pull my head out of my ass and pay attention.
Ambiguous or not.
So it only takes a ring from a bike bell to get you to pull your head out of your ass? Good to know.
Ding-ding!
Wow, you sure are witty, but I'm not really impressed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/opinion/sarah-sanders-trump.html
I was thinking about this last night as I was reflecting on this thread and riding to dinner I saw a kid on one of those little bikes with a metal leash that allowed mom to have her hand on the tot's bike while she walked. I rang my bell and thought that at a minimum I was announcing that I was nearby. As discussed elsewhere the number of rings and the intensity of them can add meaning. "I'm here" is pretty much what the bell seems to be telling us.
Getting back to the original post we appear to be talking about how the bell should be recognized objectively.I was the first to chime in along those lines with my line stealing from Freud, "A bell is just a bell." But is it? By labeling this as objective, am i assuming some authority that nobody granted me? Subjectively, the bell was perceived otherwise and that has led to Alex's confrontation and our conversation. We have had a lot of mansplaining going on here, with me included. I would love to hear more voices.
i have a bell mounted on a few of my bikes, with more on the way. i have used a bell to:
1)Announce myself well in advance before passing horseback riders to avoid startling a half-ton of nervous horseflesh (often get thanked for that by the rider)
2)announce my impending passing of peds on MUPs (Ditto) -And if they're on their earphones, i ring loudly & repeatedly.
3) make little kids smile.
4)warn slower cyclists (there aren't too many that are slower than i am) that i'm passing.
5)greet people as i pass their yard parties/picnics.
6)express my displeasure with some hyper-testosteroned rider who passes me too closely and unannounced (sort of an "on your right, buddy!")
#1 is -thankfully- rare in the city, but common in some suburbs & rural roads.
#3 & #5 are just for fun
#6 is self-explanatory.
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