This is Why Bike Mechanics are Always Grumpy...

It's mostly because we get paid bullshit.

Seriously, do you have any idea how annoying it is to get bitched at about the cost of a tune up when you don't make shit?

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Permalink Reply by Haddon on February 14, 2014 at 1:56pm

name used, legal name, yea a hundred bucks isn't that big a deal to me.  Asked to be called on repairs depending on price, repairs were done anyway - for a lot.  Take care, really don't want to interact with you at all I should have let you go on making an ass of yourself and not taken the bait.  Pretty happy with my life these days don't even begin to want to interact with some one as miserable as you.  Best. H

notoriousDUG said:

I'd also like to ad that based on the names on your blog you have never made a purchase at the shop I work at...

Haddon said:

It's really not worth the bother, any of it. 

notoriousDUG said:

There isn't anybody to argue with right now...

I notice you haven't given any details on how a shop tried to rip you off or answered any of the pricing questions I asked...


Haddon said:

I'm more wondering if the DUG got himself shot?  He went from mighty a tizzy to stone silent pretty quick.

Permalink Reply by Michael A on February 14, 2014 at 3:21pm

I have my bikes worked on often at many local shops, Johnny Sprockets, Turin, Get a Grip, Iron cycles and Element have all worked on one bike or another of mine over the last 5 yrs. Without making his head swell too much Doug was able  to diagnose and fix a problem with my CX bike that had been annoying me for the 3 yrs I owned it. A creaky headset had been replaced several times and by several shops< I was about ready to scrap the frame when Doug used some persistence and skill to get it fixed. No one is perfect and some folks may come off more gruff then others. In my opinion Doug is one of the better mechanics out there, I personally think it is because of aviation repair background and always servicing items according to the manual. If someone can keep a helicopter in the air carbon fiber Italian bike parts are a breeze.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on February 14, 2014 at 9:23pm

Thanks!

Michael A said:

I have my bikes worked on often at many local shops, Johnny Sprockets, Turin, Get a Grip, Iron cycles and Element have all worked on one bike or another of mine over the last 5 yrs. Without making his head swell too much Doug was able  to diagnose and fix a problem with my CX bike that had been annoying me for the 3 yrs I owned it. A creaky headset had been replaced several times and by several shops< I was about ready to scrap the frame when Doug used some persistence and skill to get it fixed. No one is perfect and some folks may come off more gruff then others. In my opinion Doug is one of the better mechanics out there, I personally think it is because of aviation repair background and always servicing items according to the manual. If someone can keep a helicopter in the air carbon fiber Italian bike parts are a breeze.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on February 14, 2014 at 9:26pm

Dude, you say my shop ripped you off, but you give no details and you are not in our system at all and then claim it's not worth your time to deal with righting a $100 wrong?  I'm sorry but you have never patronized Element and I am pretty pissed you would imply we ripped you off when you have never been a patron here.

Haddon said:

name used, legal name, yea a hundred bucks isn't that big a deal to me.  Asked to be called on repairs depending on price, repairs were done anyway - for a lot.  Take care, really don't want to interact with you at all I should have let you go on making an ass of yourself and not taken the bait.  Pretty happy with my life these days don't even begin to want to interact with some one as miserable as you.  Best. H

notoriousDUG said:

I'd also like to ad that based on the names on your blog you have never made a purchase at the shop I work at...

Haddon said:

It's really not worth the bother, any of it. 

notoriousDUG said:

There isn't anybody to argue with right now...

I notice you haven't given any details on how a shop tried to rip you off or answered any of the pricing questions I asked...


Haddon said:

I'm more wondering if the DUG got himself shot?  He went from mighty a tizzy to stone silent pretty quick.

Permalink Reply by Haddon on February 15, 2014 at 2:13am

My legal name (used in regards to money) is different that my walking around name, how I work it.  Receipts are long lost, long ago, I'm enough past it to go revisit it.  Please, your a walking bad advertisement for your company, insulting potential customers before they even walk in the door. I really honestly want nothing to do with you, wish I realized this sooner. Best, take care, try smiling.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on February 15, 2014 at 6:58am

I would say you claiming we ripped you off is bad advertisement as well and I'm trying to rectify it but you seem to have no desire to do so.

No receipt needed; PM me your info and I can look at the work order and I can refund for any labor that was charged without approval.  

Element in Oak Park only has me and one other mechanic, it seems unlikely that work would have been done without approval but if it was i would like to make that right but I cannot find any record of you in our system for any of our shops.

Haddon said:

My legal name (used in regards to money) is different that my walking around name, how I work it.  Receipts are long lost, long ago, I'm enough past it to go revisit it.  Please, your a walking bad advertisement for your company, insulting potential customers before they even walk in the door. I really honestly want nothing to do with you, wish I realized this sooner. Best, take care, try smiling.

Permalink Reply by Haddon on February 16, 2014 at 8:20am

Oy, my apologies are due, I hear by apologize to Element, its employees and employes, customer base and whom ever else might be necessary.  RT north gave me the shaft, (though I still frequent RT south).  DUG, I had convesations with you at RT and you know your shit but here, on the chainlink it's like your sitting around waiting to be indignant and you make the site less pleasant for all involved. Again my apologies where they are due.

h' 1.0 said:

Haddon still thinks you work at Rapid Transit.

Give it a rest.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on February 16, 2014 at 9:01am

Thank you, I appreciate you clarifying that.  I take the shop I work at being honest and providing top notch service very, very seriously.

What happened to you is also an excellent example of why it pays to talk to the person who is going to be the one working on your bike; all to often instructions get lost in the shuffle.

Haddon said:

Oy, my apologies are due, I hear by apologize to Element, its employees and employes, customer base and whom ever else might be necessary.  RT north gave me the shaft, (though I still frequent RT south).  DUG, I had convesations with you at RT and you know your shit but here, on the chainlink it's like your sitting around waiting to be indignant and you make the site less pleasant for all involved. Again my apologies where they are due.

h' 1.0 said:

Haddon still thinks you work at Rapid Transit.

Give it a rest.

Permalink Reply by Chitown_Mike on February 16, 2014 at 5:16pm

DUG, I have a back ground as an auto mechanic and have about $10k in tools and specialized training and I ran into a similar problem, with my training I lacked experience in a shop and shops pay for experience or they pay you very little till you have that experience.  And then there is the dark side of the automotive world....faking bills and making crap up to charge a customer for work they don't need.  That was something I refused to partake in and it cost me a career in the repair world.  I sell race car parts now, so while I am still in the auto world I don't have to deal with the shystiness of the repair part of it.

And something to keep in mind and has helped me focus on always doing something on the side of whatever I do during the day: A job won't every pay you what you're worth, it will only pay you what the job is worth and just enough to keep you around doing the job.  

Good luck man, and if you ever need a few good book recommendations that helped me move up and make more money in my field (and weren't gimmicky) let me know.  I did a lot of reading out when I was in the shop before I made my way into a "cushier" job.

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