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Nearly every morning, I witness 40-foot trucks driving on the Lake Front Trail. The trucks take up the entire width of the path, and knock over tree branches onto unsuspecting joggers and bikers. They are creating a dangerous situation by funneling two way running/biking traffic into the narrow shoulder, while blocking view of the oncoming lane. I should also note that the trucks are moving, and not just parked on the trail. How are they even getting access to the trail, and who is continuing to allow this to happen?

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Coexist.

I want my lakefront path dearly.

I also want my Bud Light at the concessions dearly.

I believe the lakefront is multi-purpose.

There is a ramp but it's quite a bit away from the south end of the apron.  In any case, the apron ends well away from the cafe with a good stretch of sand in between, as such I doubt having a truck use the apron to get to the cafe is a feasible option.

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

There is a ramp between the North Ave and Oak beaches. I've seen the ramp, plus once I saw a few trailers down on the apron, so I know vehicles of that size can utilize the ramp.

S said:

Have you been on the LFT by there?  There's no ramp that would allow a truck to get on that apron or follow anywhere near the restaurant at Oak St Beach.

David P. said:

There is one hell of a big concrete apron there that service vehicles can drive on for most of that distance without blocking the entire path.

Whereas if they drive by the cafe, they can turn on the apron and unload off the path.

S said:

There is a ramp but it's quite a bit away from the south end of the apron.  In any case, the apron ends well away from the cafe with a good stretch of sand in between, as such I doubt having a truck use the apron to get to the cafe is a feasible option.

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

There is a ramp between the North Ave and Oak beaches. I've seen the ramp, plus once I saw a few trailers down on the apron, so I know vehicles of that size can utilize the ramp.

S said:

Have you been on the LFT by there?  There's no ramp that would allow a truck to get on that apron or follow anywhere near the restaurant at Oak St Beach.

David P. said:

There is one hell of a big concrete apron there that service vehicles can drive on for most of that distance without blocking the entire path.

Posts claiming that alternative delivery methods are illegal are only relevant if driving a semi down the path is somehow authorized by municipal orinance. Otherwise, the current delivery method also is illegal (albeit protected by clout). There is a path under LSD not far from the restaurant. Not sure why a delivery driver's convenience should take precedence over safety and convenience of other path users. This is coming from a former delivery driver who rarely bikes on that part of the path.

Has there ever actually been a collision involving a truck and a cyclist on the path?  Somehow I think other cyclists pose a greater danger than a large predictably moving truck...

Maurice said:

Posts claiming that alternative delivery methods are illegal are only relevant if driving a semi down the path is somehow authorized by municipal orinance. Otherwise, the current delivery method also is illegal (albeit protected by clout). There is a path under LSD not far from the restaurant. Not sure why a delivery driver's convenience should take precedence over safety and convenience of other path users. This is coming from a former delivery driver who rarely bikes on that part of the path.

Helicopters?  Really?  And where exactly would they land?
 
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

Cargo bikes, helicopters, giant push-carts, I don't care. It's not our problem how they restock, and they shouldn't burden the public – who has a right to the trail – with their private business needs.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

How else will they restock that restaurant?

Sarcasm detector broken? :-)

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:

Helicopters?  Really?  And where exactly would they land?
 
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

Cargo bikes, helicopters, giant push-carts, I don't care. It's not our problem how they restock, and they shouldn't burden the public – who has a right to the trail – with their private business needs.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

How else will they restock that restaurant?

Not really.  If they had deliveries by giant push carts, I'm sure you'd whine about that too.  (People complain about the Flintstone mobiles after all.)  And remember - a truck can get down the path and do its business (and be out of your way) faster than a "giant push cart."
 
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

Sarcasm detector broken? :-)

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:

Helicopters?  Really?  And where exactly would they land?
 
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

Cargo bikes, helicopters, giant push-carts, I don't care. It's not our problem how they restock, and they shouldn't burden the public – who has a right to the trail – with their private business needs.

Duppie 13.5185km said:

How else will they restock that restaurant?

The danger is apparent from that picture, regardless of whether the truck hits a bike. It's also explained rather clearly in the OP.

Maurice, no one is saying that this is not a hazard, we are all just shaming a certain member who thinks this forum is his personal whine list.........

I have yet to find a single "whine" of Adam's to be other than legitimate.

Ever heard of just staying out of threads that don't personally interest you?

Michael A said:

Maurice, no one is saying that this is not a hazard, we are all just shaming a certain member who thinks this forum is his personal whine list.........

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