After reading the comments about 'hit for the first time', thought I'd jot out a few points to consider for that unlikely scenario of hood surfing.

STAY DOWN: DON'T assume you are ok and jump back up to show the world how tough you are. Serious injuries such as whiplash or internal bleeding will not be evident immediately. You are not a doctor. You are in trauma, adrenaline clouds your judgement. Have a witness or first responder be your advocate, their judgement isn't clouded by pain, embarrassment or anger. Have them get the plate number, description and/or name of the driver for you.

GET ATTENTION AT THE SCENE: Believe in the kindness of strangers. Nothing gets peoples' attention more than laying on the pavement and yelling "oh!!! AGHGHGGH!!". If "we" as cyclists "are traffic", as we are told, then we can stop traffic.

GET NAMES & BADGE NUMBERS: of witnesses, traffic aides or first responders. Ask others to get names and write them down.

GET A POLICE REPORT: Insurance companies, media and or the courts will not begin to listen without an official document. Insist upon it at the scene. I can't tell you HOW many times I've spoken with people who did all of the above but never got a PR#. They have the plate number, the name of the driver and their insurance, but with no PR#, they are SOL.

Get a Police Report
Get a Police Report
and finally,
Get a Police Report

oh, and, wear a helmet please.

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This is great. Mind if I condense this into the flier I'm working on?
yeah that is a good idea!

GabeW said:
This is great. Mind if I condense this into the flier I'm working on?
Another thing is pictures. I was lucky to have my camera on me one time when I was in a car accident. The police weren't helping. I was hit head on by a left turner, and even though my car was going straight down the south lane, and the other car was sideways across the street, half in my lane, when the officer arrived on the scene, the police report had me at fault cuase the lady said I was speeding. I guess evanston police was quick to believe an older woman in a jeep more than a young guy in an MG (that wasn't powerful enough to speed on that road). So the lady sued (she had no insurance) and I won, despite all testimony and a police report against me, cuase I had pics. Do you believe her court fine for not having insurance was $50!!!

I took some of the pics to the police dept too. My main problem with them was that they threatened to put me in the back of a squad car when I pulled out my camera. At the meeting I had with them later they said it was cuase I was in the road. I explained that the other person who hit me was in the road too, but they didn't threaten her. They said she wasn't. Then I showed the pictures proving it. The meeting started to go in my favor after that. I got as much of an apology as could have been expected.
Make sure when you call the police, report "an accident WITH INJURIES," no matter how uninjured you may feel. My husband and I were in identical crashes a week apart. Whoever called on my behalf reported injuries, and a squad car and ambulance were there within a minute or two (I was a little banged up, but OK). My husband called in a traffic accident, said that nobody was hurt, and the police never showed. (he ended up going to the hospital later that day after his elbow swelled up to a softball size). Seems if nobody's hurt, the police just don't care. And no police means no report.

In a related thought, I found that the driver's insurance had no problem paying off me and my husband for our bike repair and doctor bills. They are so used to car repairs that run into the thousands, that a little $500 bike repair was like nothin to them. Plus, they have no idea what a nice bike costs.
that's a really good tip, I'd not heard of that distinction before.
Joking: I'd say to the dispatcher that there is aBOUT to be an injury 'cuz I might smack the driver around.
thanks!

Clare said:
Make sure when you call the police, report "an accident WITH INJURIES," no matter how uninjured you may feel. My husband and I were in identical crashes a week apart. Whoever called on my behalf reported injuries, and a squad car and ambulance were there within a minute or two (I was a little banged up, but OK). My husband called in a traffic accident, said that nobody was hurt, and the police never showed. (he ended up going to the hospital later that day after his elbow swelled up to a softball size). Seems if nobody's hurt, the police just don't care. And no police means no report.

In a related thought, I found that the driver's insurance had no problem paying off me and my husband for our bike repair and doctor bills. They are so used to car repairs that run into the thousands, that a little $500 bike repair was like nothin to them. Plus, they have no idea what a nice bike costs.
Another thing to add Anne, get the scene secured. Get the traffic stopped so you are not run over by some one that is rubbernecking the scence, and make sure no one trys to move you! I was hit by a drunk driver in March of 1999. She hit me at 50-55 mph. I almost blackedout from the hit. I was face down in the street and bleeding. I had to tell the peolpe that came to help me to get traffic stopped since cars were still driving around me. I had a do-gooder try to move me and had to tell them not to touch me. I did not know how messed up I was. And yes get a police report and ask the police to take pictures if you can't find someone with a camera. GabeW, hope you have this flier done before the weather gets nice. Do a kick ass job and give a few to the Chicago Sun Times to print. They love human intrest stories, I get sick of hearing about all of the shootings, and crime as most people do. This would go a long way at helping bikers in the city and burbs. Thanks, Jim

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