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i often see bikes with quick release that are locked to something via only the front wheel. And whenever it happens, its always a fail. the lock in a pic seems big enough to lock both the front wheel and the frame to the rack. maybe a tourist?
I feel badly for the owner and hope it wasn't their first and last bicycle commuting experience.
Julie seemed to be juggling several things when this thread went up and I don't think she really meant to express mirth over this person's misfortune either (?)
I saw this bike "locked" up yesterday in front of PetSmart on Elston & Logan Blvd.
Seriously? A DOLLAR STORE lock? I could probably chew through that lock with my teeth. I've got a more serious lock on my luggage and those are even "TSA-Compliant" so that any 75 IQ TSA Employee can pick it.
Whatever.
I saw this bike "locked" up yesterday in front of PetSmart on Elston & Logan Blvd.
Seriously? A DOLLAR STORE lock? I could probably chew through that lock with my teeth. I've got a more serious lock on my luggage and those are even "TSA-Compliant" so that any 75 IQ TSA Employee can pick it.
Whatever.
I think that was a Kozy sticker on the seat tube now that I think about it. This could be the same bike! But the police report is from April 2009.
Without the serial number it's going to be hard to prove even if it is. Lots of Specialized bikes out there in this color. Don't they sell them at WalMart now?
I think that you can only make so many excuses for people. You cannot do something that dumb and expect sympathy.
H3N3 said:
Maybe the person was simply doesn't have good mechanical/spatial skills and had not had access to the necessary education?
Do you guys think losing the bike was adequate punishment, or should there be public flogging as well?
I'm with Doug on this. People who stare off wistfully into middle space imagining a simpler time when we could all leave our doors unlocked and we all knew our neighbors by name...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
There're people out there trying to steal your shit. Act accordingly.
notoriousDUG said:
I think that you can only make so many excuses for people. You cannot do something that dumb and expect sympathy.
H3N3 said:
Maybe the person was simply doesn't have good mechanical/spatial skills and had not had access to the necessary education?
Do you guys think losing the bike was adequate punishment, or should there be public flogging as well?
I have to agree. There is Theory and there is Reality. The difference is only in Theory is there no difference.
People* are out there trying to steal your shit. It's not right, it's not fair but right now there isn't much that can be done about it beyond making it difficult.
It doesn't excuse the thieves and their behavior to acknowledge this fact -any more than it excuses the rats for causing the plague. The city finally got smart and started poisoning the rats. Maybe someday they'll get serious about the 2-legged rats too.
* and I use the term loosely.
Kevin Conway said:
I'm with Doug on this. People who stare off wistfully into middle space imagining a simpler time when we could all leave our doors unlocked and we all knew our neighbors by name...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
There're people out there trying to steal your shit. Act accordingly.
Even if you were unable to feel compassion for another human being, a person interested in bike advocacy would feel concern for the person's future likelihood to continue to choose a bicycle as their daily transportation. You have claimed to be a bike advocate, so I don't understand why you choose to wallow in blame and derision. What do you get out of that?
Howard, you have raised an interesting philosophical question, and quite possibly the subject for my next bicycling manifesto. I do love to ride a bike. I do feel compassion for others. Just because I ride a bike doesn't mean I think everyone should do it-or that everyone doing it will enhance or improve my experience, or the experience of others.
H3N3 said:
Even if you were unable to feel compassion for another human being, a person interested in bike advocacy would feel concern for the person's future likelihood to continue to choose a bicycle as their daily transportation. You have claimed to be a bike advocate, so I don't understand why you choose to wallow in blame and derision. What do you get out of that?
Jeez- I hope so. I'm not sure I am familiar with the "anti-advocacy" crowd (which probably means I'm part of it), but I view the continuum of people on the chainlink as ranging from: BIKE ADVOCATE to people who ride a bike.
H3N3 said:
That's fine. And why I specifically mentioned that Doug has declared himself a bike advocate.
I'm painfully aware that there's no rule that you have to be a bike advocate to ride a bike.
Despite not directly relating to my response to Doug, it does sound like an interesting 'study question.'
Although I think it's come up many times before and we've learned each time that the anti-advocacy crowd also tends to unleash the most unbridled venom in trying to "win" the discussion.
Maybe it will be different next time around.
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