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I found this interesting and thought I would pass it on. I never considered the fact that what and how I eat had this much of an impact on anything more than my own health and well being. Chalk one up for the Veggiemonster :)

http://bicycleuniverse.info/transpo/energy.html



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I just wish I could see past the straw man and through all the holier-than-thou BS to his righteousness.

H3N3 said:
He's kind of right though.

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Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:
Wow.

Jason said:
And as I said before, "I eat meat because it tastes good" is a weak argument IMO. In light of all the evidence of what the costs of a meat rich diet are to the planet, it's health and ultimately and literally our own health as a species, that's basically the same argument as saying "I have sex with underage girls in brothels in Thailand because it is physically pleasurable."

i lost count of straw men... be cool to have a find engine (ctrl-f) and type in "{fallacy}" on a page.
though not especially proud of certain characteristics, i am:
1. willful/stubborn
2. ignorant
3. denial of many things

but at least i can work my way up from there.
if you or anyone you know are none of the above, i am glad for you -- you know everything... and i would idolize you if i didn't have #3 on my list.

i love the french foie gras rep that said "ittes not cruel, ittes deliscious" -Magnifique
Thang,

WTF? How dare you be ignorant of things? I can't believe you'd allow that. It was such a gross feeling when I used to not know everything. I just don't know how you can go on being ignorant.

thang van ung said:
i lost count of straw men... be cool to have a find engine (ctrl-f) and type in "{fallacy}" on a page.
though not especially proud of certain characteristics, i am:
1. willful/stubborn
2. ignorant
3. denial of many things

but at least i can work my way up from there.
if you or anyone you know are none of the above, i am glad for you -- you know everything... and i would idolize you if i didn't have #3 on my list.

i love the french foie gras rep that said "ittes not cruel, ittes deliscious" -Magnifique
Minh's stock went up a lil:
"I want legalization of marijuana and all illegal narcotics. I want the gun ban to be lifted in Chicago. Yeah that's the kind of vegan I am."

Ryan I got this goin in the Kitchen:

Hey Minh,
What's up with the profanity. Can't get your point across without it?

Minh Nguyen said:
I'm not like Jason. I don't give a shit what anyone eats or how they live their life. I don't want more government regulation. Government is corrupt and full of shit. Some people recycle because they think it will save the environment.... well good for them?

Groups like PETA and even Critical Mass just piss people off more than covert them to their cause. I think it's hilariously fucking retarded how there's so much division and arrogance within these fringe groups. I want legalization of marijuana and all illegal narcotics. I want the gun ban to be lifted in Chicago. Yeah that's the kind of vegan I am.
hahahahahaha Fuck! ;-)

Duppie said:
Hey Minh,
What's up with the profanity. Can't get your point across without it?

Minh Nguyen said:
I'm not like Jason. I don't give a shit what anyone eats or how they live their life. I don't want more government regulation. Government is corrupt and full of shit. Some people recycle because they think it will save the environment.... well good for them?

Groups like PETA and even Critical Mass just piss people off more than covert them to their cause. I think it's hilariously fucking retarded how there's so much division and arrogance within these fringe groups. I want legalization of marijuana and all illegal narcotics. I want the gun ban to be lifted in Chicago. Yeah that's the kind of vegan I am.
There is 2 1/2 lbs of slow cookin beef in there ;-)
And bacon is missing because...? :)

Gabe said:
There is 2 1/2 lbs of slow cookin beef in there ;-)
Jason, Can you buy me a larger slow cooker so i can cook more beef? ;-) Ryan, I've never slow cooked bacon. I'm gonna look up if this can be done tonight ;-)
It was a joke, but I commend your bacon-cooking curiosity.

Gabe said:
Jason, Can you buy me a larger slow cooker so i can cook more beef? ;-) Ryan, I've never slow cooked bacon. I'm gonna look up if this can be done tonight ;-)
I thought it went well with the "feeling" of this thread.

I'm sorry if I offended you or looked crass and trashy with my "foul" language. I'll try to keep up with the other polite and eloquent posts. I can see some ad hominems coming my way shortly.



Duppie said:
Hey Minh,
What's up with the profanity. Can't get your point across without it?

Minh Nguyen said:
I'm not like Jason. I don't give a shit what anyone eats or how they live their life. I don't want more government regulation. Government is corrupt and full of shit. Some people recycle because they think it will save the environment.... well good for them?

Groups like PETA and even Critical Mass just piss people off more than covert them to their cause. I think it's hilariously fucking retarded how there's so much division and arrogance within these fringe groups. I want legalization of marijuana and all illegal narcotics. I want the gun ban to be lifted in Chicago. Yeah that's the kind of vegan I am.
Jason, do you suggest not so much of a meat stew, but more of a meat meat?

Jason Smajda said:
If you got rid of all that other stuff, it will make more room for meat.

Gabe said:
Jason, Can you buy me a larger slow cooker so i can cook more beef? ;-) Ryan, I've never slow cooked bacon. I'm gonna look up if this can be done tonight ;-)

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