Road rage cyclist?

I've gotten angry, but wow! Not like this!


A raging cyclist fed up with aggressive Manhattan drivers took matters into his own hands yesterday, jumping on the hood of a limo that clipped him and smashing in the windshield with his fists.

Bike messenger-gone-wild Perzeus Forte, 20, also ripped out the front passenger window, tore the shirt of driver Darr Mohammed, 49, and
clocked him in the face during the savage road rage attack around 1
p.m., sources said.


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Permalink Reply by igz on April 9, 2010 at 4:55am
there is def something missing here, since the driver, tho the 'victim' here, still caused the whole thing and drove off too.
Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on April 9, 2010 at 5:01am
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.
Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on April 9, 2010 at 5:25am
Yeah, that is a perfectly reasonable reaction on the part of the cyclist...

Being wronged does not immediately make it right for you to be an ass; commit an act of extreme vandalism and then commit assault and all of a sudden the cops care very, very little about what the driver did to you.

Incidents like this are why cyclists have a hard time getting any sympathy, chew on that before you glorify this kid.
Permalink Reply by heather s on April 9, 2010 at 5:39am
uh... "sensibly sided with the cyclist"? The cyclist sounds like a lunatic.

Tony Adams said:
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.
Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on April 9, 2010 at 7:13am
From the article: He then turned his attention to his blood-soaked hands, plucking out shards of glass while waiting for the cops.

Haha. Remember kids - smashing windows with your bare hands is a bad idea. What a moron. This idiot is lucky the driver didn't say fuck it and run him over or drag him along for a ways after he broke the driver's window.
Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on April 9, 2010 at 11:14am
heather stratton said:
uh... "sensibly sided with the cyclist"? The cyclist sounds like a lunatic.

Tony Adams said:
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.

The cyclist certainly behaved like a lunatic, but he was driven to do so by a driver who drove away from the scene of the crime. Through his lunacy it is possible that the cyclist saved some pedestrian and cyclists lives.
Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on April 9, 2010 at 2:29pm
Tony, you know what you do after a hit-and-run? CALL THE POLICE!, not go be an idiot thinking you can take on something that's bigger, faster, and harder than you.

Tony Adams said:
heather stratton said:
uh... "sensibly sided with the cyclist"? The cyclist sounds like a lunatic.

Tony Adams said:
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.

The cyclist certainly behaved like a lunatic, but he was driven to do so by a driver who drove away from the scene of the crime. Through his lunacy it is possible that the cyclist saved some pedestrian and cyclists lives.
Permalink Reply by Glenn on April 9, 2010 at 5:21pm
I have had these feelings once before... luckily I never caught up to them(turned green before I got there)... they threw a full pop can at my head while passing me from behind. B4st3rds would have lost their windows for sure.

Fastest sprint of my life though, Ill tell you what
Permalink Reply by Michelle Green on April 10, 2010 at 8:58am
what??? how does this do anything to save cyclists and pedestrian lives??? how does this do anything but reinforce and even worsen a shitty stereotype about city bikers and messengers, while also likely creating for the driver a vendetta against cyclists for the rest of his life?

Tony Adams said:
heather stratton said:
uh... "sensibly sided with the cyclist"? The cyclist sounds like a lunatic.

Tony Adams said:
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.

The cyclist certainly behaved like a lunatic, but he was driven to do so by a driver who drove away from the scene of the crime. Through his lunacy it is possible that the cyclist saved some pedestrian and cyclists lives.
Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on April 10, 2010 at 10:42am
Michelle Green said:
what??? how does this do anything to save cyclists and pedestrian lives??? how does this do anything but reinforce and even worsen a shitty stereotype about city bikers and messengers, while also likely creating for the driver a vendetta against cyclists for the rest of his life?

Tony Adams said:
heather stratton said:
uh... "sensibly sided with the cyclist"? The cyclist sounds like a lunatic.

Tony Adams said:
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.

The cyclist certainly behaved like a lunatic, but he was driven to do so by a driver who drove away from the scene of the crime. Through his lunacy it is possible that the cyclist saved some pedestrian and cyclists lives.

We'll never know who that driver was gonna run into or over next. At least in the hospital or wherever they took him he was not in a position (behind the wheel) to do any more harm with his death machine.
Permalink Reply by heather s on April 10, 2010 at 11:04am
No one is defending the driver, who committed a crime and should be held accountable. But this is not an appropriate response to a traffic infraction (anad it's impossible to know from the story, which said the driver "grazed" the cyclist... the driver may not have even know he hit someone). He obviously has poor or reckless enough driving skills that he hit another moving vehicle and either didn't notice or chose not to stop. But, it's not likely that he goes about wantonly hitting pedestrians and cyclists all day long. It's a bit disingenuous, imo, to say that lives were saved because of this psychotic cyclist's actions.

More likely to occur is what Michelle said-- this guy made cyclists and messengers in particular look bad, as if we're too immature or out of control to share the road responsibly. It is certainly unfortunate that members of a small demographic group are sometimes judged based on the actions of others in that group. But that's how it is.

Tony Adams said:
We'll never know who that driver was gonna run into or over next. At least in the hospital or wherever they took him he was not in a position (behind the wheel) to do any more harm with his death machine.
Permalink Reply by Michelle Green on April 10, 2010 at 11:08am
So I'm going to assume (perhaps with willful naivete) that nobody will think that I'm on the side of a hit and run driver ever, BUT! But. Sometimes cyclists ARE AT FAULT when they get hit while doing stupid shit. I obviously don't know if that was the case in this instance or not, but maaaaaybe the driver was absolutely obeying the law (until he ditched) and was at no more than an utterly average risk of hitting responsible pedestrians or cyclists. JUST CONSIDER IT.

On the other hand, let's say this driver is a reckless asshole- hell, maybe he even hit Our Hero on purpose!- well, the article says he got off with a ripped shirt and a black eye. That's it. So he fixes his windows and gets back to driving, not having been cited for anything (at least not according to the article). Either way, beating the shit out of a car helps..... how?

Tony Adams said:
Michelle Green said:
what??? how does this do anything to save cyclists and pedestrian lives??? how does this do anything but reinforce and even worsen a shitty stereotype about city bikers and messengers, while also likely creating for the driver a vendetta against cyclists for the rest of his life?

Tony Adams said:
heather stratton said:
uh... "sensibly sided with the cyclist"? The cyclist sounds like a lunatic.

Tony Adams said:
Yes. I read the first three pages of comments, cringing in advance since I expect NY Post readers to be at least as bad as Sun Times or Trib commenters, but many of the commenters noted the blame-the-victim skew of the story. It was pretty amazing to me that the majority of the comments sensibly sided with the cyclist.

The cyclist certainly behaved like a lunatic, but he was driven to do so by a driver who drove away from the scene of the crime. Through his lunacy it is possible that the cyclist saved some pedestrian and cyclists lives.

We'll never know who that driver was gonna run into or over next. At least in the hospital or wherever they took him he was not in a position (behind the wheel) to do any more harm with his death machine.

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