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Permalink Reply by Tom A.K. on March 16, 2018 at 4:38am

Ok. Thought everyone on the forum was finished commenting. I usually close my discussions when things die down. Thanks Yasmeem !

Permalink Reply by Mike Muczynaki on March 16, 2018 at 5:07am

In general, I'm not in favor of embedding electronics into helmets.  I understand that this will be tested for meeting safety standards, but if it's my head vs. pavement or my head vs. a windshield, I'd prefer to have the maximum amount of foam or whatever the impact-absorbing material is between my head and the object.  And I especially don't like the idea of lithium batteries right next to my head.  

I do like the idea of cameras.

But conceptually, I'm skeptical that this implementation is better than mounting cameras on the bike itself.  The problem I see is that the rider's head moves.  A lot.  And the frame rate of 30fps is relatively slow.  You put those two factors together, and the video will be blurry compared to other options that are cheaper and more readily available.  You can see it already in the sample video on kickstarter.  Just pause the video and look at some stills.

Like Jim, I use the Gitup Git2.  It has gyro stabilization, and full HD at 60fps.  It can do even higher resolution at 30fps.  The gyro stabilization makes a huge difference.  It can capture stills that clearly show licence plate numbers.  To me, that is key.  And the cameras are always keeping their eyes on the road, front and back and 170 degrees across, no matter which direction my head is pointing.  No camera is going to make your ride safer, but if you can help yourself or a fellow rider by accurately documenting a crash and the responsible party, it might help in many ways.  

Another benefit of the GoPro-type cameras, mounted on the bike frame, seat, etc., is that you can put a battery pack in a bag (handlebar bag, frame bag, seat bag) and power the camera all day long.  With this helmet, what would you do after a 2.5hr ride?

The ability to use the phone as a rear-view mirror is a neat idea, but with a phone being as small as it is, and with glare from sunlight outside, I don't see it being practical.  Now, maybe with a full-sized Ipad on your handlebars and a matte screen filter, when there isn't sunlight hitting it, then maybe.  But I'd probably just look over my shoulder as usual.

I suppose that for mountain bikers or others who want to capture their action, this could be a fun gizmo.  

Permalink Reply by Tom A.K. on March 16, 2018 at 6:06am

Mike, thanks for your reply.
I now believe that everyone who cycles on roads and paths should have some type of video camera to record activities in front and behind them during a ride.
I think that the Cyclevision helmet is a device that is approaching the needs of cyclists in quality and cost.
No device is perfect and everyone has different needs and expectations from them.
I would try this device when it comes out.
Right now, I think I'm going to get a GoProHero 5 for around $300+ and see how it goes. Will report when I do.

Permalink Reply by TonyP on March 16, 2018 at 6:49am

I got a refurbished Hero 4 Silver for $229 and it looks and works like new.

https://shop.gopro.com/refurbished/refurbished-hero4-silver/CHDNH-B...

I use a k-edge saddle mount on one bike and a k-edge handlebar mount on another and while pricey they are rock solid and vibration free.

https://k-edge.com/product-category/light-and-action-camera-mounts/

 

Permalink Reply by Tom A.K. on March 19, 2018 at 8:48am

Testing XYZ 123

Permalink Reply by Mike Muczynaki on March 20, 2018 at 4:02am

Biking in to the office today, I imagined that my helmet had a rear-view camera which was wirelessly connected to my phone.  The phone was on a handlebar mount.  I looked down at the phone, and all I saw was blue sky, rather than the cars behind me.  I swiveled my head around, and sure enough the cars were still there.  Looked down at the phone again - blue sky.   Hmm...

Permalink Reply by Jim Reho on March 20, 2018 at 5:59am

I see where you're going with that.  Good point.

Permalink Reply by curt(is) locke on March 20, 2018 at 4:07am

A mediated existence.

Permalink Reply by Tom A.K. on March 20, 2018 at 5:23am

Mike, if your Cyclevision rear camera is only showing blue skies, you might have the helmet placed too far forward on your head. ;-)

Permalink Reply by TonyP on March 20, 2018 at 5:34am

It's probably showing blue skies because he has to look down to see the phone screen, which would point the rear of the helment at the skies.

Permalink Reply by Tom A.K. on March 20, 2018 at 5:57am

Yes, I know. The manufacturer mentioned the glare problem and acquiring an anti-glare screen.
I would just keep using my rearview mirror.

Permalink Reply by curt(is) locke on March 20, 2018 at 6:12am

Or he could just look up at the sky.

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