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Permalink Reply by Laura on June 9, 2010 at 2:39am

Ill prob just meet everyone down there again. My 'loaner bike' (stupid theives) won't let me keep up with you guys for that distance.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 9, 2010 at 2:50am

You obviously have not payed attention to how slow I ride...

Laura said:

Ill prob just meet everyone down there again. My 'loaner bike' (stupid theives) won't let me keep up with you guys for that distance.

Permalink Reply by igz on June 10, 2010 at 5:08am

would we present ourselves at the council as a 'vigilante' group or just bring our findings to their attention? do you think we would be telling them something they dont already know, or is it more to say that WE know, too?

H3N3 said:

Will go through and summarize for Saturday later in the week.

A suggestion from a well respected bike advocate in regard specifically to Swap-O-Rama-- attend a Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Council meeting and bring it to the city's attention.

Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by Marty A. on June 10, 2010 at 5:40am

You do ride slow . . .

Permalink Reply by Kevin C Dormant on June 10, 2010 at 7:10am

What began as an ad hoc collection of individuals now has a name, its own chainlink sub-group, and over 20 self-identified members. Efforts have been undertaken to establish a protocol and identify tasks. Notwithstanding my inherent suspicion of group behavior, it seems to me that there are a number of different identified objectives for this group:

-Eliminate or reduce Bike Theft;
-Capture Bike Thieves;
-Photograph Bike Thieves;
-Capture “known” vendors of stolen bicycles;
-Photograph “known” vendors of stolen bicycles;
-Alert the authorities (police, alderman, Bicycle Advisory Council and/or City Council) to market(s) trafficking in stolen bicycles; and
-Recover stolen bicycles.

I believe each of these objectives has some merit, but also believe that some of these objectives are mutually exclusive.

Do we also need to refine objectives?


iggi said:

would we present ourselves at the council as a 'vigilante' group or just bring our findings to their attention? do you think we would be telling them something they dont already know, or is it more to say that WE know, too?

H3N3 said:

Will go through and summarize for Saturday later in the week.

A suggestion from a well respected bike advocate in regard specifically to Swap-O-Rama-- attend a Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Council meeting and bring it to the city's attention.

Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by Vilda on June 10, 2010 at 4:19pm

vig·i·lan·te
1. One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands.
2. A member of a vigilance committee.

It is a group of vigilantes and there is nothing wrong with that. ;-)

Good luck tomorrow and hope to see everyone at naked ride to get a full report! ;-)

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 11, 2010 at 2:04am

If I make it there I will have a lap top.

Permalink Reply by Ron on June 11, 2010 at 2:43am

1152 N Milwaukee Ave. I've got a small laptop. Carene can hold down at Mickey's. Be there, Or Be square

Permalink Reply by Julie Aberman (Hochstadter) on June 11, 2010 at 9:24am

Do you guys need an extra u lock? Let me know if you would need one (I know there are varying opinions on simply trying to quickly throw a ulock around a bike before the cops arrive). I can't come Saturday but can donate one (hopefully I will get it back but if not its a donation).

Also, other Saturdays I can come, sounds like it would be good to get fresh faces so as not to spook vendors who start to know some of you.

Permalink Reply by Kevin C Dormant on June 12, 2010 at 11:22am

I know it was the functional equivalent of pissing in the ocean, but that was fun. Thanks everyone.

Permalink Reply by Moc Artsy on June 12, 2010 at 12:46pm

So what happened?

Permalink Reply by Moc Artsy on June 12, 2010 at 1:49pm

You can move this to a closed group if you like. Thieves and fences "fighting back" is completely unacceptable, and if they want to move from theft of property to larger crimes, then I think a line definitely has to be drawn.

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