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Permalink Reply by Mike Schwab on March 18, 2013 at 4:40pm

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5986557

Permalink Reply by zerofivenein on March 18, 2013 at 5:31pm

well, if you're a dummy and you run red lights, you also run the risk of getting hit.

mark said it best.

don't be an idiot and risk life and limb for something insignificant.

i'm not encouraging idiocy.

i recommend people be safe.

it's a fun fast ride for fun.

the point is to be as fast as you can manage safely.

if you get hit, it's because you took a risk you shouldn't have when it wasn't serious enough to do so.

people make their own decisions on that front, though.

Permalink Reply by Juan Primo on March 19, 2013 at 1:15am

I rode some of the Tour d'Chicago races in 2008, and yeah, it was just as dangerous as Chuck Goudie said.  I'll admit with much guilt that we were a danger to ourselves and others.  Totally.  There was a pack mentality when I was in the pack, that "WE'RE ALL RUNNING THIS LIGHT".   When I lost the pack (man, those guys are fast), common sense took back over.  I still rode as fast as I could but without the pack I stopped when I had to and signaled a lot more.

Alex Wilson doesn't come off very well in his interview.  I wonder if his  views have evolved.

Permalink Reply by Lanterne Rouge on March 19, 2013 at 2:38am

I was just going to say that. I don't think any person with common sense would agree with what he was quoted as saying.

It doesn't matter if you're a pedestrian, cyclist, or even another motorist - you've made a poor choice by running a red light and have to be willing to accept the potential consequences ..i.e. death.

Juan Primo said:

I rode some of the Tour d'Chicago races in 2008, and yeah, it was just as dangerous as Chuck Goudie said.  I'll admit with much guilt that we were a danger to ourselves and others.  Totally.  There was a pack mentality when I was in the pack, that "WE'RE ALL RUNNING THIS LIGHT".   When I lost the pack (man, those guys are fast), common sense took back over.  I still rode as fast as I could but without the pack I stopped when I had to and signaled a lot more.

Alex Wilson doesn't come off very well in his interview.  I wonder if his  views have evolved.

Permalink Reply by Brendan Kevenides on March 19, 2013 at 2:59am

That's cool.  Just know what you're getting into: http://www.mybikeadvocate.com/2010/06/tale-of-alleycat.html

Permalink Reply by globalguy on March 19, 2013 at 5:11am

Nuff Sed.

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Permalink Reply by zerofivenein on March 19, 2013 at 5:24am

i sincerely appreciate the warnings and horror stories.

and i mean it.

post more of them or more info on them as you find them if you can.

i'm showing the links and articles to the people involved so they too know exactly what it is that they're getting into.

this is a dangerous thing i'm suggesting, and i want everyone to make informed decisions on the risks they're taking with their lives and the lives of others.

it's an event geared more to the professional city cyclist crowd that started as a fun thing between friends/coworkers, and is open to (almost) everyone.

chefs looking for a thrill, kool kids with aerospokes on their sweet fixie and no experience with the nuances of traffic, and dentists with $20,000 pinarellos are advised to keep away or really really (really) read up on what they're getting into.

because this is not premium rush. when you get nailed by traffic, time isn't going to go backwards to give you another shot at a different outcome... you might end up a spectator at the damen derby.

Permalink Reply by Juan Primo on March 19, 2013 at 5:30am

I suggest you keep this as underground as possible then.  Lots of dentists and Pinarellos on this forum.

Permalink Reply by zerofivenein on March 19, 2013 at 5:37am

that's the plan, i mostly posted it here in case there were any fellow friendly courier types that would want to give it a go in as safe a manner as possible. and i didn't want to keep it toooo underground so the really seedy overly underground types aren't there turning it into something it's not.

Permalink Reply by Paul Fitz, Scrabblor on March 19, 2013 at 5:58am

oh no, I thought the damen derby was going to be the race that hinged on the mid ride feat of eating the texas donut delight at huck finn!  Now it just sounds silly.

Permalink Reply by David Barish on March 19, 2013 at 7:40am

Good advice.  Publicly post that its a joke and anybody who wants to contact you can do so by PM rather than in public.  Me?  I'm old, chickenbleep and slow. 

Juan Primo said:

I suggest you keep this as underground as possible then.  Lots of dentists and Pinarellos on this forum.

Permalink Reply by Lorena Cupcake on March 19, 2013 at 9:35am

Yeah, as an organizer of unsanctioned races I would not recommend The Chainlink as a place to find like-minded folk. ChiFG would likely be more appropriate place.

 

That being said, there is very little use for "Is anyone interested in making this thing happen with me?" threads, because if you need the interest of other people to make it happen, likely you're not commited enough to actually organize the thing. Just throw it. People will show up. Or not.

 

Keep in mind average attendance for "super hardcore planned-by-messengers-for-other-messengers" alleycats is around 5 people right now. Not sure if you're gonna do better than that for an unsanctioned road race.

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