superstreets - faster and safer traffic with no left turns

I guess they have been studying this, I can't vouch for the the claim in the title of course but here is the article.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-left-superstreet-traffic-safety...

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http://tinyurl.com/65xlzth

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Permalink Reply by mindfrieze on January 12, 2011 at 7:14am

From the picture in the article, I can see this design promotes excellent cyclist and pedestrian facilities as well.  I'm sure the safety and convenience of bikers and walkers trying to cross the street has been improved tremendously.

Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on January 12, 2011 at 7:39am
NASCAR fans will NOT like this.
Permalink Reply by Ali on January 12, 2011 at 10:26am
This is an absolutely horrible idea...I sometimes wonder if these people ever take a step back and think about what they propose.

-Ali
Permalink Reply by Davo on January 12, 2011 at 11:00am

This will help people leaving the walmart to get to the applebee's accoss the street.

Its funy that they say superstreets are not highways or free ways, the picture seems to look like thats just what they are.

Permalink Reply by Len Krietz on January 12, 2011 at 11:02am

Actually UPS uses a "right turn" deliver system to save time, gas and reduce accidents. See:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=3005890&page=1

Permalink Reply by payton on January 12, 2011 at 12:12pm

Yes, there's nothing more fun than going three blocks just to travel one block, especially when on foot!

 

Honestly, what's the difference between this and a Michigan/Jersey left?

Permalink Reply by Mike Zumwalt on January 12, 2011 at 5:04pm

They've had those for years in Michigan/Detroit suburbs. They do nearly eliminate accidents BUT they also entail some aggressive merging as the speeds along these routes are at least 45 mph and the given space to turn right to turn left to go the opposite direction is 1/4 mile.

It's not energy efficient because your driving 1/2 a mile just to turn and  in Detroit buses can't use the turn areas and have to make an actual left turn at the light.

 

Bike lanes!? LOL! try riding your bike on Western ave. only now it's 4 lanes wide, no street parking and 45 mph. don't forget about people pushing the speed limit which would be nearing 55 mph. hmmm, yeah fuck that!

Permalink Reply by Allen Wrench on January 12, 2011 at 5:07pm
Looks like the "Michigan Left Turn" is really a "Superstreet". Good, I suppose, for Detroit, not good for bike travel, as Mindfrieze points out.

How about the same land, with trams / light rail through the 'wide median' and bikes/pedestrians on one paved lane, cars in both directions in the other? Travelers might be likely to choose the (faster) Superrapidtransit, which could likely move more people per hour than cars, or quickly zip to where they're going on their bikes...
Permalink Reply by Joe Willis on January 13, 2011 at 5:33am
The biggest issue I see with this is the volume of traffic we have in Chicago. It is hard enough to make a left on Ashland or Irving Park and those are only two lanes add one or two more lanes and that left becomes impossible for traffic and crossing the street only a dream for pedestrians.
Permalink Reply by Mike Zumwalt on January 13, 2011 at 11:24am

Not to derail this into a Detroit thread but...

Detroit had light rail in the middle of the street then did away with it and made more lanes for cars, it worked for a while but they have more lanes than they need and an entire lane could be a bike lane.

In almost all suburbs,except the small downtowns of each city, are not bike able, you ride on the sidewalk or get ridden over. It takes 2 light changes JUST to cross the street.

 

Permalink Reply by Juan 2-3 or more mi. on January 13, 2011 at 3:55pm
Carsick America =P

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