So do we even have any form of moderation here?

So after the amazing shit show that was Gabe and Michelle crapping all over the message board here I think it is a good time to ask this question.

 

What happened here is ridiculous, two people were allowed to run wild like a couple of monkeys flinging shit everywhere.  Regardless of who you want to see as wrong or right there the fact remains that they were allowed to carry on completely unchecked.

 

Why?  Light moderation is one thing but why should two defective people be allowed to run wild like that?  Especially when others have been kicked off for doing the same?

 

Didn’t we kick off Beezodog for hijacking threads and not letting an argument die?

 

Of course that leads to another thing; we have some loose rules but they never seem to be enforced, why?



So what is it, do we have an enforce rules or can people just do whatever they like?  Because it mostly looks like people can just act however they want…

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Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on September 5, 2014 at 6:42am

Yes, please.

Kevin C said:

Why yes, yes we do. And they seem to be excellent mod selections.

Now can we return to the regularly scheduled content?

Permalink Reply by Tristan Jackson on September 5, 2014 at 6:49am

Yeah, apples and oranges are so different from each other that it is impossible to compare them. Ergo, Julie should personally answer all Doug's questions because she is no Tim Cook. 


Nikul Shah said:

I took your Apple analogy to mean that CL shouldn't tolerate notoriousDUG's agitations for transparency/change in the same way Apple wouldn't tolerate that from a shareholder. My point was that Apple, like every other publicly held company, does in fact tolerate such agitations and has built in mechanisms for listening to its shareholders and providing transparency. In other words, I found your derisive analogy flawed and actually supportive of notoriousDUG.

As has been pointed out already, it is like comparing apples and oranges. It isn't really relevant here.


 
h' 1.0 said:

It looks to me like you took my analogy and did a very good job of illustrating that it does apply here-- even better than I thought.  All of the things you mentioned are analogous to the way things are handled here.

And again, crap all over Apple's user forums because Tim Cook won't respond personally to you over and over again, and see how you're dealt with.

Permalink Reply by Andrew Bedno on September 5, 2014 at 7:07am

Tim Cook is a corpdroid(tm), but Steve Jobs was renowned for personally responding to emails from pretty much anybody.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  Nothing to see here, move along.  Add more fem mods, then we'll talk.

Permalink Reply by Sarah D. on September 5, 2014 at 8:21am

I noted that with a sad face, too. Though, I wonder if it reflects (active or otherwise) membership on The Chainlink?

Andronymous said:

86% male

Permalink Reply by Haddon on September 5, 2014 at 8:35am

"This is not "Doug's Thread." 

But, in fact, it is.

It's to the point now where his feelings are what matter. "May be we should ask Doug how he feels about the responses to his questions/concerns?"

Diamond was reasonable, Julie was smart enough to not take the bait and rules were changed, moderators assembled and policies adopted.  And yet this thing goes on and on.  And the above offer will get taken up, worry not.

This weekend a couple dozen kids, right in this city, are going to catch bullets. Meanwhile in an obscure online message board...............

Don't feed.

 


h' 1.0 said:

This is a user forum, not a blog. When somebody puts something out there it is inherent in the medium that any communication that results can be directed in any direction.

This is not "Doug's Thread."  But feel free to ask him anything you wish. Ideally over and over again, even after he has gone out of his way to address it.


 
Nikul Shah said:

Has it? Given the long and winding nature of this thread, it is hard for me to tell. For the record, I have regularly kept up with this thread. It is Doug's thread and question. May be we should ask Doug how he feels about the responses to his questions/concerns?


 
h' 1.0 said:

Nikul, I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time seeing that Doug's questions have been addressed and that there has been a response of increased transparency. I can only assume that you haven't followed this discussion from the beginning or maybe have only skimmed a few posts per page.
 

Permalink Reply by Davo on September 5, 2014 at 9:49am

Being someone who has observed several stock holder meetings i have found this to be true.

There is always someone with some asinine, irrelevant, question that they demand answers for and they are dealt with a very diplomatic way of saying F-off.

There are also loads of good, tough questions that get responded to in a skilled side stepping manner.

If there was a live forum (not held in the internet), then yes Julie would have to respond in some manner to any question asked. Now she could handle the situation like i stated above, or invite more of a discourse on the issue.

To the best of my knowledge the chain link does not have one of these yearly meetings where we can ask , in person, these questions. Therefore there is absolutely no obligation for her to respond here. The same way that any one of us is in no way obligated to answer anyones questions here.

Permalink Reply by Vilda on September 5, 2014 at 9:52am

This is the song that doesn't end. It just goes on and on my friend.

Somebody started singing it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue singing it forever just because...

Anne Alt said:

Yes, please.

Kevin C said:

Why yes, yes we do. And they seem to be excellent mod selections.

Now can we return to the regularly scheduled content?

Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on September 5, 2014 at 10:03am

"We didn't start the fire..."  -Billy Joel

"We don't need no water let the MFer burn"  -The Bloodhound Gang

Permalink Reply by Leah Jone on September 5, 2014 at 12:43pm

There would be more women, but I'm one that was asked and declined. I don't think I'm alone.

If you want to help the moderator team match the diversity of the community, then shoot Julie a note and let her know. I talked to her yesterday about this and my advice was that it was better to introduce a growing team than to continue to wait while she searched for more women.

Anywho! back to lurking and reading about bikes for me!


Sarah D. said:

I noted that with a sad face, too. Though, I wonder if it reflects (active or otherwise) membership on The Chainlink?

Andronymous said:

86% male

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on September 5, 2014 at 3:00pm

Some of my questions have been addressed and others have been ignored but at least we have some kind of rules and moderation update.

The new rules and moderation guidelines are still kind of a joke but an improvement on what was there.

Permalink Reply by Tandemonium on September 5, 2014 at 3:05pm
Ya good now champ?
Permalink Reply by Haddon on September 5, 2014 at 3:52pm

Yea, has your individual concerns been addressed or is more needed? For a forum that you could be LEAVING AT ANY TIME ARE YOU HAPPY???? If yo not happy there is a board at Reddit that covers bikes and there is also one on Craigs list.  I'm sure you could GO THERE and post to your hearts content with out any bit of unfairness or what not.

And you could GO THERE and no one would be unfair or impartial and you wouldn't have to worry about the fact that that The Chainlink is unfair or that, sorry to say, you didn't get a pony?!

Tandemonium said:

Ya good now champ?

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