I'm currently riding a Raleigh One Way with a Yepp Mini (with my almost 2 year old son). This isn't really the best set up as the bike dimensions aren't great with the seat, but it works and it's the bike I was commuting on before my son was born.
We have another one on the way. I know I have awhile before the second will be ready to bike commute, but at this point I'm looking to invest in another bike so I am able to commute with 2 kids.
I'm leaning towards a Yuba Mondo because I can use the Yepp Mini when the 2nd is little and then fit both kids on back in the future.
I'm also looking at the Madsen. Anything else I should be looking at? Any thoughts on either of these bikes?
I do have a trailer that I use with my road bike (usually outside of the city), but I'm not interested in using the trailer to commute.
On the street? With cars? Almost 2 years old?
I'm assuming that you are OK with riding a beast of a bike for your commute. (While I love my cargo bike, using it to commute would drive me insane.)
With that assumption, let me endorse the Yuba Mundo. It is a real value, and highly configurable to address a variety of needs, including carting around two kids that continue to grow. Another option is the Xtracycle Edgerunner, but it is my recollection that the Edgerunner cost more than the Yuba Mundo. (Ditto for Surly's Big Dummy, which also uses the Xtracycle platform.)
While I've not ridden the Madsen, I think the Yuba is more configurable (and therefore has more utility) than the Madsen. And a little easier to move than most bakfiets-styled bikes.
I do admit, though, that I miss having my son ride in front of me. (We used an iBert seat until he outgrew that.) The whole "sitting in front" thing is what makes a bakfiets-style bike attractive to me.
We ride a bakfiets with our daughter, and its loads of fun. We can talk with her while riding, and she loves sitting up front. She can carry a toy or a snack, and if she drops it, it just lands in the box. The thing rolls over rough pavement really easily.
The downsides are probably obvious: it's big and heavy (you're not going to be bringing it up stairs on a regular basis), and it's expensive (though they do hold their value pretty well if you're looking for something to use for a few years and then sell). It does actually roll very easily, but if you have a headwind, it's a major workout.
I totally hear you about the Bakfiet. I would love to get a Bullitt by Larry vs Harry, but have no place to put it.
Like you, I'm a condo dweller with limited space. Our longtail was the only realistic option for us. I've got a Trek Transport, at a time before Yuba Mundo was just being developed. If I could make the choice again, I'd go for the Yuba Mundo, just because of all the different things that work with it. The Transport has served us very well, but I admit to having Mundo envy.
Yeah, I just read about the Edgerunner today and the Surly Big Dummy is on my radar as well. The issue for me with a bakfiet (and possibly the Madsen) is I have nowhere to put it. We live on the third floor. I currently keep my bike in the basement and I have to bring it down about 5 steps. I need something that will fit through the basement door and not weigh a ton. The other big issue for me is most of my commute is solo. My son is on for a few miles. Anyways, the more I think about my needs, the more I'm leaning towards a long tail model.
Someday, however, I would love to have a Bakfiet.
Lots of comparisons on chicargobike.blogspot.com though not updated in awhile.
There was a Gazelle brand folding Bakfiets (the cabby) available for a few years, could be carried up and down stairs, not as durable as others. Advantages of these bakfiets type bikes is kids are visible to you in front, won't fall asleep and fall off, bike can carry lots of stuff at the same time (errands, kids clothes, picnic, a couple small friends...) Don't prefer longtails myself though they're popular. Yuba seems more bulletproof in general. Also not a joy to lift up and down stairs.
We have used many bikes and trailers to carry kids; Bakfiets was the best until maybe 8-9 yrs old, then a tandem became more popular with the kids and every now and then they'll pedal. Riding their own bikes in the city needs a lot of supervising and remains risky until they are older and less impetuous but great for more shielded routes and events.
Lots of Dutch people just pile several kids in addition to the adult rider onto a single normal bike, if you can manage it. Good luck.
Thanks for the tip about Bike Friday Haul-a-Day, KayCee! I didn't know about this bike. How does the bike ride in comparison to the Yuba?
Yeah, I've been meaning to get to a Kidical Mass for this exact reason - to scope out bikes and meet other commuting families. None of my friends with children commute by bike. I don't think I can make it this Saturday, but I follow the schedule closely and will eventually make one!