Chicago bike sharing will be known as Divvy, be Chicago flag blue

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Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on April 29, 2013 at 4:41am

Nicely said.

Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on April 29, 2013 at 6:41am

You're not just saying that because of all those "Alt"s in there are you?  :)

Anne Alt said:

Nicely said.

Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on April 29, 2013 at 7:25am

Not at all. I think the suggestions explain various aspects of the program well without any snarkiness.

Tony Adams 6.6 mi said:

You're not just saying that because of all those "Alt"s in there are you?  :)

Anne Alt said:

Nicely said.

Permalink Reply by payton on April 29, 2013 at 7:27am

Hi. I wrote that "pretty condescending answer." What you don't know that it was a reply -- in an entirely different venue -- to someone else, whom I really did think would know better, who titled his message "Bike Sharing for the 1%." He wrote, based on a poor understanding of the program, that Divvy would be "A hassle..." "no doubt a $1200 reserve will be set aside," etc. I, being impatient with someone reporting misinformation from the very beginning -- nothing else had been written on that list about Divvy -- responded in a snarky manner.

Had that individual not immediately started out with an invalid criticism of the program, I would have responded differently. There is no need for you, in turn, to be so condescending.

I am not presently affiliated with Divvy or Alta Bicycle Share, except that I am a satisfied customer, and that ABS was very helpful in providing information for my academic research into bicycle sharing systems and their users. I think it's pretty obvious that I, as an individual, do not speak for Divvy or "the bicycle community," any more so than I speak for all Americans, all Earthlings, all people who are presently wearing orange, or all apple pie eaters, and I don't think that I or even you have an obligation to be all sunshine and happiness all of the time.

Permalink Reply by Elliot Greenberger (Divvy) on April 29, 2013 at 7:41am

Hi Michelle. All that detailed information about usage fees will be made available in the coming weeks. I'll certainly post an update here once we've made that public. Let me know if there are any other questions I can answer for you. 

Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on April 29, 2013 at 7:51am

I saw that "bike sharing for the 1%" message but hadn't read all the responses. I share your frustration with the disinformation spread by that message - by a person who should have taken the time to learn a bit more before posting.

In the context of this forum, the "snark meets snark" context of your message got lost.  I'm sure that lots of folks here didn't see the original exchange that spawned your response.

payton said:

Hi. I wrote that "pretty condescending answer." What you don't know that it was a reply -- in an entirely different venue -- to someone else, whom I really did think would know better, who titled his message "Bike Sharing for the 1%." He wrote, based on a poor understanding of the program, that Divvy would be "A hassle..." "no doubt a $1200 reserve will be set aside," etc. I, being impatient with someone reporting misinformation from the very beginning -- nothing else had been written on that list about Divvy -- responded in a snarky manner.

Permalink Reply by Adam Herstein on April 29, 2013 at 9:11am

bike sharing for the 1%

As if a one-percenter would be caught dead on a bicycle, anyway. He's too busy running them over with his Land Rover.

Permalink Reply by Lisa Curcio on April 29, 2013 at 9:49am

Adam, who do you think buys those $15,000 bikes? ;-) 
 
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

bike sharing for the 1%

As if a one-percenter would be caught dead on a bicycle, anyway. He's too busy running them over with his Land Rover.

Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on April 29, 2013 at 9:57am

And only brings them out on weekends...

Lisa Curcio 4.0 mi said:

Adam, who do you think buys those $15,000 bikes? ;-) 
 
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

bike sharing for the 1%

As if a one-percenter would be caught dead on a bicycle, anyway. He's too busy running them over with his Land Rover.

Permalink Reply by Tim S on April 29, 2013 at 10:33am
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20121211/OPINION/121209832?t... Don Wilson, who does quite well for himself, is a big cycle advocate. Run into him often on the LFP when we are heading to the yacht club to race.

Do you carry a sad trombone with you through life Adam, you seem to be down on a lot. :)
Permalink Reply by Adam Herstein on April 29, 2013 at 10:41am
Tim S said:
Do you carry a sad trombone with you through life Adam, you seem to be down on a lot. :)
Nah, just a ton of sarcasm.
Permalink Reply by payton on April 29, 2013 at 2:28pm

The fees you will actually pay to use bike sharing are much, much lower than $100 -- typically somewhere in the range of a few dollars. Here's a representative sample of charges for a lengthy (90 minute) trip on systems around North America; that link is from last year, and apparently Divvy hasn't set an updated price schedule.

"Pre-authorization" holds are incredibly common: gas stations routinely place a $100 hold on cards when they're first swiped; that amount is released after a few days. The lesson is: especially for any transaction that's pre-authorized and where the final bill is settled later (gas station, hotel, restaurant, car rental, bike share), use a credit card instead of a debit card, and always keep some of that credit line open. As I've mentioned, 75% of Americans have credit cards, so for most of us this isn't a problem.

Minneapolis eliminated its credit card hold requirement after finding that there was no appreciable loss to theft or vandalism. Other systems, notably in Paris, did find significant losses, and those losses are why the card authorization is usually done.

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