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I haven't, but I am wondering how bike-friendly they are. What has your experience been like?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/ct-met-getting-...

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When they first tried them on the Red line a few years back, they were quieter inside but you can't look out the windows.

They are on the pink line. They have a lot bigger space for bikes. They also have a much smoother ride, it is much easier to hold the bike & stand.

Read the article without having to deal with the annoying Legacy Press paywall here.

Nope, that's not the full article either.  Usually you can read stuff at the mobile site but for some reason this article is not there.

Legacy Journalism Fail.

I don't think it is a paywall yet? I read the entire thing by setting up an account with a cookie.

Even after setting up an account, and giving them personal info (that they can use or sell-erburg), you are only allowed to see/read a certain number of news stories per day/month/year before being shut out without paying to "upgrade" your account.

James doesn't do cookies... 

Gotta disagree there. The suspension has so much sway you can easily get thrown just like being on a jerky bus.  I have also wondered where the hell an apprioriate space for a bike would be, as there doesn't seem to be any at all. No problem figuring it out on the old cars. I wonder if we're talking about the same thing?  I do like the new maps with the light indicating where the train is currently.

Ace Mann said:

They are on the pink line. They have a lot bigger space for bikes. They also have a much smoother ride, it is much easier to hold the bike & stand.

I'd love for someone who travels on the lines in question with the new cars to take a quick cell-phone video of their experiences of rolling a bike onto one of the new cars and what they are like inside as far as room, ride, comfort.  

That would be very helpful in letting folks experience exactly what these new cars are like short of actually riding one themselves. 

All it would take is a short video, a post to youtube, and sharing with others what a bird-eye view experience they had.   

So much better than Legacy Journalism has left us with from the Craptacular Jurnile

I like the smoother, quieter ride, but overall I hate them for all the reasons given in the Trib article.  I generally hate center facing seats - getting feet stepped on, crotches or butts or bags in my face, and not having any view all make the ride suck.  The pole spacing just adds insult to injury.  Haven't tried them with my bike yet.

Worst thing about center facing seats I've experienced is that it's pretty much untenneable to be in the same area as a large rowdy bunch of teens.  It does make for slightly more opportunity for eye contact though... look for a dramatic swell in craigslist missed connections referencing exchanging glances on the El.

Anne Alt said:

I like the smoother, quieter ride, but overall I hate them for all the reasons given in the Trib article.  I generally hate center facing seats - getting feet stepped on, crotches or butts or bags in my face, and not having any view all make the ride suck.  The pole spacing just adds insult to injury.  Haven't tried them with my bike yet.

Agreed.

h' said:

Worst thing about center facing seats I've experienced is that it's pretty much untenneable to be in the same area as a large rowdy bunch of teens.

On the flip side, with the spacing of the vertical bars on the new cars, it's difficult for two people in bulky winter coats to fit into the two seat spaces between the bars, which results either in squished people or wasted space.


The NYC cars are much longer and wider, with a lot fewer vertical bars, so the space is much more open, making it a lot easier to move through the car.

AM said:

They're also on the Green Line.  Personally, I like the inward-facing seats, which are like NYC subway cars.  One reason is that it is substantially easier to get in and out when the train is crowded, especially in the winter when people are wearing bulky coats.  Ever been pinned to the wall and the person on the aisle can't make enough space to let you out?  Also, if the car is not crowded, it is now possible to bring a bike further inside. And the AC power train (as opposed to the DC systems on the old cars) does make for a less jerky ride.  

First world problems.

People are getting too big to fit into all the seats.   Since there are times when people can't bring their bikes onto CTA trains wouldn't it be fair if there were times when folks who needed more than one seat would be prohibited from the trains at these times too?

Paging Kevin Smith...

Bicycles are permitted on CTA trains (The 'L') every day, except during weekday rush periods (7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.). Up to two regular bicycles are allowed inside each car. Bicycles are also not allowed on July 2 or 4, or when trains are full.

Note: Certain railcars on the Blue Line have doors that swing inward and cannot accommodate bicycles. Only enter cars with green decals that show that bicycles are allowed inside.

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