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Comment by Aaron Bussey on March 15, 2010 at 2:08am

rik...

"We will see who follows. I won't be following you.
Ethics. They are not for everyone."

Were you offended by what I said? And what is your ethics comment referring to? I don't understand your point. Are you trying to say I am morally bankrupt or void of ethics?

All I was trying to say is that you would have a much easier time changing the course of the ride by using your pedals instead of your keyboard. I really wasn't trying to vilify you or anyone else. I'm kind of laid back like that - hence why I like taking the rides to bars.... :)

Comment by rik on March 14, 2010 at 8:01pm

Liz I apologize for posting in the wrong group.
My mistake.
Any one following up on this thread move over to the nscm's own group.

Comment by Liz W. Durham on March 14, 2010 at 6:50pm

okay, I am confused. Why is this argument going on here instead of on the NSCM group page? Or is this group intended as a support/tag-a-long to the NSCM group? I only ask because I don't usually see many comments on this group and now there are lots about the NSCM ride.

Not trying to offend anyone...

Comment by Julie Aberman (Hochstadter) on March 14, 2010 at 4:04pm

The rides I've been on the past (haven't done one since fall) have been very well planned with great routes.
This conversation is a common one of critical mass rides. Sometimes there is a good route and everyone follows it, sometimes it gets hijaked and sometimes there is no route. What I have loved is the well planned out routes of North Side Mass (off the top of my head i can think of Tonys, Andrews and Hannahs). Maybe since the North Side Mass has been a nice alternative local ride for many of us (starting later and not downtown) we should get back to these well thought out routes and not going to a bar at the beginning of a ride (as Nik was saying now that it is warmer). The November ride I was on for about 30 minutes had at least 2 alcohol runs at the beginning which I found sort of unnecessary. Drinks can be bought before if people feel the need. And some people don't drink so making that a focus of the ride I think can turn people away and makes its less family friendly. But that is up to whoever plans the route.

What is nice is we have this forum and place here to suggest routes. What about Val's offer to ride up to Evanston?

Comment by rik on March 14, 2010 at 3:39pm

cutifly
with some help maybe we can turn forward.

Comment by cutifly
I am still hungover. which way are we turning ?

Comment by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on March 14, 2010 at 3:12pm

It was pretty annoying that some of us ended up standing outside Lincoln Square Lanes for at least a half hour.

Aaron, while it was known that we were ending at Bennett's, no mention was made of stopping at at least 2 places (I left for Bennett's shortly after the stop at Christina's) because some people decided they needed a beer.

Though, in your defense, I'm not sure why the group outside (myself included) didn't decide 'F this' and leave since we knew what the end spot was.

Comment by cutifly on March 14, 2010 at 3:02pm

I am still hungover. which way are we turning ?

Comment by rik on March 14, 2010 at 12:00pm

Aaron
I'll take my road, ...you take your road.
It is definitely not the same road.
We will see who follows. I won't be following you.
Ethics. They are not for everyone.


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Comment by Aaron Bussey
My point is simply that it is much easier to hi-jack the ride with your bike as opposed to vocalizing your disappointment with it...

Comment by Aaron Bussey on March 14, 2010 at 11:28am

rik i like your suggestions and wasnt trying to quash your free speech...before Nazi's become part of this discussion I want to make that known. :P

My point is simply that it is much easier to hi-jack the ride with your bike as opposed to vocalizing your disappointment with it...

never been to Saudi Arabia - I hate heat and sand.... :)

Comment by Hector on March 14, 2010 at 11:19am

We are always open to suggestions/lead riders/route planners for our rides. I understand what Rik is saying but on the same token if you want to make it a "ride" lead by example and plan a route. All through the winter we have made it a short ride/bar/ride. A group of us left the second bar and kept riding to a different location to get food and to keep riding. Again I see Rik's point but Aaron is right, the mass will follow who ever is at the front.

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