THE RING: Quit Polluting, Complain Here

About this debate we seem to constantly get into about the Mass being this or that... It doesn't matter at all, it's all cock rock, as they say. We can whine, stomp our feet and yell as loud as we can but no matter how important we think our ideas on what the mass is it still just doesn't matter. Not a single one of us is more right or wrong than the other and we certainly don't have any more authority than the average rider. No matter how hard we try to influence the Mass with own our agenda it'll still keep on keepin' on. Whatever influence we have is fleeting.

But if we are going to continue to snipe at each other can we at least keep it in here, in "The Ring?"

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Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on March 26, 2010 at 8:26am
Whatever, I'm right and all the rest of you are wrong.

I know best so just keep on talking and I'll keep on being right.

You'll see.
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 26, 2010 at 9:30am
I am not afraid of it at all my friend. I just think the personal attacks recently need to stop and they are coming specifically from this topic. If it is going to continue at least we can have a spot to go at each other and not make first timers reading the main topic forum think it's just one giant bitchfest. That'll drive people away from participation a lot quicker than a team of map makers. : )
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 26, 2010 at 9:47am
Wow man. You're acting a little crazy.

No it's because you, me and a handful of other people are dominating the forum with what amounts to a personality conflict. I have been mulling it over for a bit but today really makes it apparent that everyone of us who are guilty of dominating the airwaves needs to take a break from CCM organizing AND making our opinions known about any given ride. So in otherwords Andrew, myself, you, and whoever else who feels like they are always talking should voluntarily stop following the group or at least lurk for a while. Give it some breating room.
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 26, 2010 at 9:49am
I like you Howard. I think you have valuable opinions on the ride. But this is unhealthy. It is after all, a bike ride about Happy Friday.

With that said, I'll be the Reindeer of Joy at Daley.
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 26, 2010 at 9:57am
Oh and for the record if Andrew is really intimidating people over email not to participate in a ride for any given reason that is also damned crazy. But I'll reserve judgement until I hear more information. Not that it is entirely my business but I am sure I'll hear some way or the other.
Permalink Reply by buddaa38 on March 26, 2010 at 10:01am
OK;Let's all sing along! Know on a 1,2,3, I love you, You love me, We are a Happy~Family ! Group Huggs !! !! I Do wish that I could be out there. HAPPY~FRIDAY to all. Even Chuck Ol !
Permalink Reply by rik on March 27, 2010 at 3:45am
"There are two things you don’t want to see being made—sausage and legislation." Attributed to Otto von Bismark (1815-1898),
What we are attempting here is similar to making sausage.
We gag at the smell on the farm.
We puke at the slaughter house.
We are appalled at the sausage factory methods.
But somehow after it is smoked, aged, and wrapped up with a nice paper label: It is not too bad.



I think there is way too many post by some people.
I propose we set some kind guidelines.
Some thing like only 1 post per forum per day.
More than that turns into mindless chatter or may look like petty bickering.
I have seen some use their barrage of post in a few minutes as their form of CENSORSHIP.
They just try to "bury" the different point of view by moving it back so many pages out of sight.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on March 28, 2010 at 1:56am
rik said:
" I think there is way too many post by some people.
I propose we set some kind guidelines.
Some thing like only 1 post per forum per day.
More than that turns into mindless chatter or may look like petty bickering.
I have seen some use their barrage of post in a few minutes as their form of CENSORSHIP.
They just try to "bury" the different point of view by moving it back so many pages out of sight.


This is a joke, right?

I mean if you are proposing the prevention of censorship by limiting what people can say you have to be joking...
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 28, 2010 at 3:49am
Yeah but there is something to his point. Instead of having a Mod control how many times we say something we could have a gentlemen's agreement. Self censorship out of respect for the main thread. Thats why I made the "THE RING!" so that we had a place to just lay into whatever ugly topic we want to get into. It doesn't seem like it'll be used that way but I was hoping it would.
Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on March 28, 2010 at 3:55am
These threads rarely get noticed and in some cases negative stuff needs to be seen by all.

I do agree that here is a good spot to put some of the personal issues.
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 28, 2010 at 3:57am
Spencer, what happened to your little "Ring" discussion and keeping "snipes" over there? It would be really great to have a dialogue instead of endless pot shots. Who exactly was the "grandfather" crack aimed at?

Speaking of snipes, "PDA posse?" :P You know now I am going to make a T-Shirt which reads "Official Critical Mass PDA Posse."

Nah it wasn't aimed at anyone specific because EVERYONE says this. And not just the cats in the CCM thread. For example my friends in the Chicago thrash/power-violence scene who were rockin it in the 90's. They complain that Chicago punk just isn't what it used to be or isn't fun anymore. And yeah Powerviolence doesn't exist anymore and their bands have broken up but that doesn't mean "punk is dead." It's just jaded nonsense. Chicago Punk is freakin' great today but just different and Critical Mass is absolutely as fun, for me, as it was when I first accidentally ran into the Mass. Hell, I would argue it's only gotten better. Well... The cop escort thing annoys me but other than that, better!

So back to the original point, when I hear people say things like that, I remember my Grandfather railing against kids today.
Permalink Reply by Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! on March 28, 2010 at 6:29am
Yeah most of the time I am posting from my phone and the Chainlink is terrible with phones.

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