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Comment by Lee on June 20, 2013 at 9:20am

I have just updated the 400k and 600k route information on the GLR site.

The 400k is a clockwise loop through Edgerton, Verona, and Sauk City on the way to the turn-around in Baraboo. The return route crosses Lake Wisconsin on the ferry (free) on the way to Lodi, Columbus, Lake Mills, and Whitewater before returning to Delavan. It's nearly identical to the route used in 2007-2009. The preliminary cue sheet and map have been posted, GPS data will be posted when it becomes available.

The 600k will start with the 400k and return to Delavan and then follow the 200k route to Brodhead.

Comment by spencewine on June 20, 2013 at 5:41am

I'm out of town this weekend and that of July 12....I'm looking at possibly doing  the 600km on July 27th.

Comment by Eric Peterson on June 20, 2013 at 4:44am

So who is heading up to Delavan this weekend for 200K/300K rides?

Weather forecast seems to be improving (wunderground).

Comment by Eric Peterson on June 18, 2013 at 8:26am

Jeff,

You can read all about creating a permanent here:

http://www.rusa.org/permrules.html

After you read that let me know if you have any questions....

Comment by Jeff Bull on June 18, 2013 at 7:42am

Also from RUSA:

What is a Permanent? 
A Permanent is like a brevet but you can ride it any time, not just on one specific date. Like brevets, routes can start and finish in the same location, but they can also run point-to-point, and can be any distance of 200km+ (100-199km for a Permanent Populaire). Permanent rides in the US are validated by RUSA.

Now . . . all that said, I confess to not knowing how much work it would be to set this up.

Comment by Jeff Bull on June 18, 2013 at 7:39am

Eric - I don't think that's entirely correct, but we could be thinking of two different things.  What I had in mind is what's known as a "Permanent Populaire".

From RUSA:

Can I organize a Permanent that is less than 200km? 
Yes, to a minimum of 100km. A Permanent of 100-199km is designated a Permanent Populaire, and is subject to the same rules as other brevets Populaire.

Comment by Eric Peterson on June 18, 2013 at 7:16am

Clarification - a populaire is a scheduled ride that must be created under the authority of an RBA. So for Chicago Jim Kreps would need to be involved in some capacity. Such a ride would not have to start in Delavan (where all the GLR regular brevets start). 

So concerning an earlier question by Jeff Bull, he would need to work with Jim and RUSA to set up a populaire ride. 

On the other hand, a permanent can be created and setup by anyone, although the approval may also involve the approval of a local RBA. A permanent is intended for a small group of riders, and is not a scheduled ride.

Comment by Lee on June 17, 2013 at 4:57pm

Hello everyone,

Just a few comments on some recent messages:

1) IIRC, RUSA does not condone starting a sanctioned brevet with the intention of DNFing;

2) The first METRA BNSF saturday train - Naperville/Aurora - arrives in the western suburbs two hours earlier than the UP-West - Wheaton/Geneva/Elburn - train;

3) Rick Cosaro, a GLR member, often leads the saturday morning Naperville Bike Club ride that typically ranges from 40-65 miles and occasionally covers 100 & 200 miles. I think they would be receptive to delaying the start for riders arriving on the train;

4) Naperville & Geneva are good starting locations for rides in the west suburbs if you'd like to provide your s.o. with the opportunity to shop while you're riding, if not then you can reduce the amount of riding through suburban sprawl by starting from Aurora & LaFox/Elburn.

Comment by ilter on June 17, 2013 at 3:23pm

Until someone devotes the time & organizes a popullaire near Chicago, one can either

- drive to MN & ride one or more potentially well attended 100K`s & enjoy the camaraderie

- drive to Delavan & start 200K, DNF at the first control and come back for a total of 90 miles.

- Make your own short brevet assuming all you want is to test yourself.  Eric made the cue sheet available:

   https://sites.google.com/site/ottawapermanent/paperwork

Easy to make a 110K, 140K, etc. version with short cuts like these:

   http://goo.gl/maps/V1WUQ

You will be using the original cue sheet 95% of the time, easy enough to compute cutoff times (6 min per mile overall pace). And you can start & end at Naperville Metra station.

to make your own short FVP (110K, 140K, etc.), assuming

Comment by Eric Peterson on June 17, 2013 at 10:55am

Are riders just looking for routes or "official" routes - meaning brevets for which riders get credit. There is overhead with setting up and riding  brevets, but anyone can ride a route anytime they want with no overhead.

Perhaps riders just a small collection of routes to choose from, an organized list. 

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