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Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on September 11, 2012 at 4:00am

Very few people here are anonymous, people know and see each other all the time.  Do not mistake you not knowing people because you are new for people hiding behind internet screen names; almost everyone on here knows who I am, where I work and has seen me around.

People do not like to have the personal information and events of their life posted in public forums without their permission/knowledge.  That is basic  manners and should be the ONLY reason that you would retract that info from the title and initial post; reasons such as pending legal action, job stuff and other issues are valid but secondary to the fact that what you are doing here is rude.

Of course one can only expect so much from somebody who supports a organization as bigoted as the BSA...

Peter Zelchenko said:

Well, you're off base on several counts, not doing much better than your other anonymous pals.

First, I'm not passing judgment on all Chainlinkers, only the several putzes who have chosen to question my judgment in the presumptuous way they did, instead of lending a helping hand.

Next, I gained access to Chainlink strictly for the purpose of attempting to locate the Feigins, having at length exhausted other avenues; hence the three-day tenure. I have always liked The Chainlink, but have never had occasion to use it until now.

Third, you make wrong presumptions about my experience with slackers and the greater Chicagoland cycling community -- both of which I'm quite familiar with. I turned 50 years old Saturday and have lived with everything from beats to postslack first hand; I have been riding a bicycle in the city since 1965 and have been in on many online Chicago discussions since the late 1970's (that's right, before usenet via UUCP -- even on CBBS, which you've probably never heard of) and through to the chi-crit-mass listserv and others; I know most of the leaders of the Chicago cycling community, and as something of an elder here myself, I thought I would exercise my judgment by discreetly making a rare entry and inquiring about this poor kid. Only to get my head bitten off by a bunch of snotnosed poseurs.

Finally, I already have a shitty blog somewhere. But thanks just the same.

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Permalink Reply by NYC (7.0 mi) on September 11, 2012 at 4:57am

"Too bad, since your personal shit is already all over the Internet"

 

Yes, I share what I choose to/or give permission to.  You want to find out who I am?  Be my guest.  Creepy.

 

Also, I can't be the only one to find it a bit creepy that you are looking for some poor stranger because you happened to be chilling at the Home Depot when something bad happened.  Maybe she doesn't want to be found?  Maybe she doesn't care about you?  Write up a missed connection and let her choose to talk with you about a shitty day she had.

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Permalink Reply by ilter on September 11, 2012 at 12:33pm

I cannot really take credit for the "first" reasonable argument, as two other people had already pointed out basically the same issue before I did.

Peter Zelchenko said:

A reasonable argument, finally. But my identifying the location and victim served two calculated purposes: to alert the community to the accident, and to reach out to anyone who might know the victim but had not heard about the incident.

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Permalink Reply by ilter on September 11, 2012 at 12:40pm

I respect your decision. I am not interested in petitioning for anything, as you can always find a venue to repeat this. The important thing was for you to understand that your good intentions could be harmful or undesired for this person. If you are offended by a stranger guessing at that, think about how you would feel about a stranger giving out details about your family, bicycle crash, etc.

Peter Zelchenko said:

As nicely as you said that, I'm sticking to my guns. Let's stop analyzing this and get on with it. Or, you can go to the Chainlink Heads and petition for them to emend the name of the person if you're so worried. My sense is that people aren't really so concerned as all that; they just want to raise a stink about a presumptuous newbie, try to put him into his place.

And, I know I have a good heart and good intentions; I really have no need for any stranger to guess at it.

ilter said:

Peter, I believe you are a good person at heart & have good intentions. However, you should realize you are making the assumption that this person you are looking for will not be offended or hurt by her name along with family/health/accident details published online without her consent. And that is a big assumption, which you should revisit with a calm head now, before this thread turns into another polemic.

And ilter is my first name, I trust that you can find my last name :)

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Permalink Reply by mike w. on September 11, 2012 at 2:46pm

It's a tough room...

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Permalink Reply by Peter Zelchenko on September 11, 2012 at 3:08pm

Actually, your post cut in after Anne B.'s. So, your argument was not reasonable, only gentlemanly.

ilter said:

I cannot really take credit for the "first" reasonable argument, as two other people had already pointed out basically the same issue before I did.

Peter Zelchenko said:

A reasonable argument, finally. But my identifying the location and victim served two calculated purposes: to alert the community to the accident, and to reach out to anyone who might know the victim but had not heard about the incident.

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