Just read this article, kinda scary...

Are Cameras the New Guns?


The move to stop recording of police misconduct.


In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least
three states (Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland), it is now illegal
to record an on-duty police officer even if the encounter involves you
and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a
public street where no expectation of privacy exists.

The legal justification for arresting the “shooter” rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland
are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a
recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to
all that recording is underway. Since the police do not consent, the
camera-wielder can be arrested.   Most all-party-consent states also
include an exception for recording in public places where “no
expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this
exception is not being recognized.

Massachusetts attorney June Jensen represented Simon Glik who was arrested for such a recording. She explained, “[T]he statute has been misconstrued by Boston police. You could go to the Boston Common and
snap pictures and record if you want.”  Legal scholar and professor
Jonathan Turley agrees, “The police are basing this claim on a
ridiculous reading of the two-party consent surveillance law — requiring
all parties to consent to being taped. I have written in the area of
surveillance law and can say that this is utter nonsense.”

The courts, however, disagree. A few weeks ago, an Illinois judge rejected a motion to dismiss an eavesdropping charge against Christopher Drew, who recorded his own arrest for selling one-dollar artwork on the
streets of Chicago. Although the misdemeanor charges of not having a
peddler’s license and peddling in a prohibited area were dropped, Drew
is being prosecuted for illegal recording, a Class I felony punishable
by 4 to 15 years in prison.

In 2001, when Michael Hyde was arrested for criminally violating the state’s electronic surveillance law — aka recording a police encounter — the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court upheld his conviction 4-2. In
dissent, Chief Justice Margaret Marshall stated, “Citizens have a
particularly important role to play when the official conduct at issue
is that of the police. Their role cannot be performed if citizens must
fear criminal reprisals….” (Note: In some states it is the audio alone
that makes the recording illegal.)

The selection of “shooters” targeted for prosecution do, indeed, suggest a pattern of either reprisal or an attempt to intimidate.

Glik captured a police action on his cellphone to document what he considered to be excessive force. He was not only arrested, his phone was also seized.

On his website Drew wrote, “Myself and three other artists who documented my actions tried for two months to get the police to arrest me for selling art downtown so we could test the Chicago peddlers
license law. The police hesitated for two months because they knew it
would mean a federal court case. With this felony charge they are trying
to avoid this test and ruin me financially and stain my credibility.”

Hyde used his recording to file a harassment complaint against the police. After doing so, he was criminally charged.

In short, recordings that are flattering to the police — an officer kissing a baby or rescuing a dog — will almost certainly not result in prosecution even if they are done without all-party consent. The only
people who seem prone to prosecution are those who embarrass or confront
the police, or who somehow challenge the law. If true, then the
prosecutions are a form of social control to discourage criticism of the
police or simple dissent.

A recent arrest in Maryland is both typical and disturbing.

On March 5, 24-year-old Anthony John Graber III’s motorcycle was pulled over for speeding. He is currently facing criminal charges for a video he recorded on his helmet-mounted camera during the traffic stop.

The case is disturbing because:

1) Graber was not arrested immediately. Ten days after the encounter, he posted some of he material to YouTube, and it embarrassed Trooper J. D. Uhler. The trooper, who was in plainclothes and an unmarked car,
jumped out waving a gun and screaming. Only later did Uhler identify
himself as a police officer. When the YouTube video was discovered the
police got a warrant against Graber, searched his parents’ house (where
he presumably lives), seized equipment, and charged him with a violation
of wiretapping law.

2) Baltimore criminal defense attorney Steven D. Silverman said he had never heard of the Maryland wiretap law being used in this manner. In other words, Maryland has joined the expanding trend of criminalizing
the act of recording police abuse. Silverman surmises, “It’s more
[about] ‘contempt of cop’ than the violation of the wiretapping law.”

3) Police spokesman Gregory M. Shipley is defending the pursuit of charges against Graber, denying that it is “some capricious retribution” and citing as justification the particularly egregious nature of
Graber’s traffic offenses. Oddly, however, the offenses were not so
egregious as to cause his arrest before the video appeared.

Almost without exception, police officials have staunchly supported the arresting officers. This argues strongly against the idea that some rogue officers are overreacting or that a few cops have something to
hide. “Arrest those who record the police” appears to be official
policy, and it’s backed by the courts.

Carlos Miller at the Photography Is Not A Crime website offers an explanation: “For the second time in less than a month, a police officer was convicted from evidence obtained from a
videotape. The first officer to be convicted was New York City Police
Officer Patrick Pogan, who would never have stood trial had it not been
for a video posted on Youtube showing him body slamming a bicyclist
before charging him with assault on an officer. The second officer to be
convicted was Ottawa Hills (Ohio) Police Officer Thomas White, who shot
a motorcyclist in the back after a traffic stop, permanently paralyzing
the 24-year-old man.”

When the police act as though cameras were the equivalent of guns pointed at them, there is a sense in which they are correct. Cameras have become the most effective weapon that ordinary people have to
protect against and to expose police abuse. And the police want it to
stop.

Happily, even as the practice of arresting “shooters” expands, there are signs of effective backlash. At least one Pennsylvania jurisdiction has reaffirmed the right to video in public places. As part of a
settlement with ACLU attorneys who represented an arrested “shooter,”
the police in Spring City and East Vincent Township adopted a written
policy allowing the recording of on-duty policemen.

As journalist Radley Balko declares, “State legislatures should consider passing laws explicitly making it legal to record on-duty law enforcement officials.”


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Fun fact. Recording video isn't a crime only audio. So if you put a headphone jack in the camera's mic and cut the cord you are technically legal.

Hey Jeff, this is a very important topic thanks for bringing this up. This conversation is being had all over the internet. For example The Partisan was where the first post about this the illegality of filming police in a few states started and then Gizmodo posted a provocative article entitled “Are Cameras the New Guns?” which started a rather large internet meme all about Police accountability and the legal protections the state uses to ensure that it doesn’t happen. However I find it a little weird that no where in this large discussion is Copwatch. We're on the front lines of this controversy and would love to get arrested for this so we can challenge it. However the cops don't have the balls to arrest us because they know we want it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/ccv46/in_response_to_the_contr...
http://partisan-news.blogspot.com/2010/06/recording-police-is-now-illegal.html
http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/28/the-camera-is-the-new-gun/
http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns
http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/20/illinois-where-videotaping-on
This IS very interesting. So if you disable the audio, then it seems like it should be legal. Plus I wonder if making it really obvious that you are recording (like the article mentioned about news crews) then that should be ok, like yelling "I'm recording, I'm recording". Or maybe that will just get you brutalized quicker...

Thanks for the links, good stuff.

Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! said:
Fun fact. Recording video isn't a crime only audio. So if you put a headphone jack in the camera's mic and cut the cord you are technically legal.

Hey Jeff, this is a very important topic thanks for bringing this up. This conversation is being had all over the internet. For example The Partisan was where the first post about this the illegality of filming police in a few states started and then Gizmodo posted a provocative article entitled “Are Cameras the New Guns?” which started a rather large internet meme all about Police accountability and the legal protections the state uses to ensure that it doesn’t happen. However I find it a little weird that no where in this large discussion is Copwatch. We're on the front lines of this controversy and would love to get arrested for this so we can challenge it. However the cops don't have the balls to arrest us because they know we want it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/ccv46/in_response_to_the_contr...
http://partisan-news.blogspot.com/2010/06/recording-police-is-now-illegal.html
http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/28/the-camera-is-the-new-gun/
http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns
http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/20/illinois-where-videotaping-on
Hmmmm :-/ I think its homework time...
I know Chris pretty well and he is has gotten jerked around major, just like anyone else who does not go in with the best lawyer and the most money. Sucks huh, still better than Saudi though...
I see one of the links you posted is to a Radley Balko column at Reason. I recommend checking out his personal site, The Agitator, which tends to focus more on this particular subject and related matters.

Spencer "Thunderball" Thayer! said:
Fun fact. Recording video isn't a crime only audio. So if you put a headphone jack in the camera's mic and cut the cord you are technically legal.

Hey Jeff, this is a very important topic thanks for bringing this up. This conversation is being had all over the internet. For example The Partisan was where the first post about this the illegality of filming police in a few states started and then Gizmodo posted a provocative article entitled “Are Cameras the New Guns?” which started a rather large internet meme all about Police accountability and the legal protections the state uses to ensure that it doesn’t happen. However I find it a little weird that no where in this large discussion is Copwatch. We're on the front lines of this controversy and would love to get arrested for this so we can challenge it. However the cops don't have the balls to arrest us because they know we want it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/ccv46/in_response_to_the_contr...
http://partisan-news.blogspot.com/2010/06/recording-police-is-now-illegal.html
http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/28/the-camera-is-the-new-gun/
http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns
http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/20/illinois-where-videotaping-on
with this reasoning, if a person were to be caught on a police dashboard cam doing something illegal than the video from the cam shouldnt be admissable because the person didnt consent to being taped.
call me ignorant and lazy, but I cant seem to find the law itself that states this. Does any one now which law it is, or combination of laws an where to find it/them?
The legislature was thoughtful enough to add in an exemption to the evaesdropping statute to cover when police officers videotape you during a stop. 720 ILCS 5/14-3(h) of the Criminal Code provides an exception for:

"h) Recordings made simultaneously with the use of an in-car video camera recording of an oral conversation between a uniformed peace officer, who has identified his or her office, and a person in the presence of the peace officer whenever (i) an officer assigned a patrol vehicle is conducting an enforcement stop; or (ii) patrol vehicle emergency lights are activated or would otherwise be activated if not for the need to conceal the presence of law enforcement.

For the purposes of this subsection (h), “enforcement stop” means an action by a law enforcement officer in relation to enforcement and investigation duties, including but not limited to, traffic stops, pedestrian stops, abandoned vehicle contacts, motorist assists, commercial motor vehicle stops, roadside safety checks, requests for identification, or responses to requests for emergency assistance;

(h-5) Recordings of utterances made by a person while in the presence of a uniformed peace officer and while an occupant of a police vehicle including, but not limited to, (i) recordings made simultaneously with the use of an in-car video camera and (ii) recordings made in the presence of the peace officer utilizing video or audio systems, or both, authorized by the law enforcement agency;

(h-10) Recordings made simultaneously with a video camera recording during the use of a taser or similar weapon or device by a peace officer if the weapon or device is equipped with such camera;

(h-15) Recordings made under subsection (h), (h-5), or (h-10) shall be retained by the law enforcement agency that employs the peace officer who made the recordings for a storage period of 90 days, unless the recordings are made as a part of an arrest or the recordings are deemed evidence in any criminal, civil, or administrative proceeding and then the recordings must only be destroyed upon a final disposition and an order from the court. Under no circumstances shall any recording be altered or erased prior to the expiration of the designated storage period. Upon completion of the storage period, the recording medium may be erased and reissued for operational use;"



Not Nathan Fillion (aka Paul) said:
with this reasoning, if a person were to be caught on a police dashboard cam doing something illegal than the video from the cam shouldnt be admissable because the person didnt consent to being taped.
The eavesdropping statute is found at 720 ILCS 5/14. Just type that citation in google, and a copy of the evaesdropping act should pop up in the results.

Glen (FTF) said:
call me ignorant and lazy, but I cant seem to find the law itself that states this. Does any one now which law it is, or combination of laws an where to find it/them?
Alright I have read over this and it seems like this only pertains to video (with audio) and not photos ? Am I reading this right?
I wouldn't rely on anything said on this board by myself or anyone else as valid legal advice, but here is a simple take on the situation. Even though the Illinois evaesdropping statute (which is what Drew is apparently charged under) is unlikely to come into play since audio isn't being recorded, the police could potentially still arrest and try to charge a photographer for obstructing a police officer or obstructing justice. Based on the article referrenced above, it sounds like that has happened to at least a few people in other states if not in Illinois as well, with at least some of those people beating the charges when they went to court.

Ruben Dario said:
Alright I have read over this and it seems like this only pertains to video (with audio) and not photos ? Am I reading this right?
Wow - I just found this conversation. As always, when dealing a crazy cop, the law is of little importance, and, of course, I am not a lawyer or giving legal advice - ha-ha....

But I am lucky and have great free legal support. It is legal to photograph and video police in public in every State of our nation - (go back to sentence 2 for exceptions). Audio recording a policeman in public in Illinois is a first class felony. Corrupt State legislators in 1994 added this amendment to the law and there was no media coverage of it. Until 2004 no one noticed until the State began to prosecute two African American activists in Champaign, Illinois for making a documentary showing the difference between how the police in Champaign treat African American teenagers and teenagers from the college.

As noted above in the discussion - the police do not want to lose this law so they have used it sparingly, selectively. If we could prove that in court, we will have a better chance at defeating it. They used it on me because they want to silence me so badly. I would love to work with "Cop watch" people on this. We have a Cable TV program and my wife has attempted to contact Cop Watch to appear on it but no one got back to her. We are in solidarity with Cop Watch. Cop Watch should offer their experience with this law to the ACLU as evidence in their suit against Anita Alvarez.

In fact our T-shirt Art Harvest Fest this year at the American Indian Center is all about this issue. It is a "party for freedom" and starts Friday, September 24th and goes all weekend. Everyone is invited to add their comments on this issue of our right to gather info on what cops say to us in public by audio-recording them. We will have this discussion and many more from online posted with all our t-shirt art and art patches. Many bike art-patches will be given away. I hope some will come.
Chris

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