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Permalink Reply by Adam Herstein on June 12, 2013 at 2:54am

Spinning class does absolutely nothing to promote the idea of cycling for transportation (the primary goal of Bike to Work Week Chicago Bike Week) so therefore it has no place being here.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 12, 2013 at 3:22am

Wait; you think riding a trainer requires less physical exertion?

Have you ever even been on one?

yai danche said:

It's not terrible!  It's like those driving simulators before you get into a car.  Actually not really.  Spinning isn't a very accurate introduction to bike commuting.  For one thing, there's less physical exertion.  I hope their stationary bike mile counter at least encourages them to think they could physically bike commute.  

Permalink Reply by Adam Herstein on June 12, 2013 at 3:24am

A trainer is not a spin machine. AFAIK, they all have adjustable resistance, so perhaps yai danche was riding on the lowest setting?

notoriousDUG said:

Wait; you think riding a trainer requires less physical exertion?

Have you ever even been on one?

yai danche said:

It's not terrible!  It's like those driving simulators before you get into a car.  Actually not really.  Spinning isn't a very accurate introduction to bike commuting.  For one thing, there's less physical exertion.  I hope their stationary bike mile counter at least encourages them to think they could physically bike commute.  

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 12, 2013 at 3:29am

People pay a membership to ride a spin bike or on a Computrainer because it provides them with a better workout in less time than riding on the street or path.  With a trainer people can set resistence and maintain a certain power output and cadence because there is no traffic to contend with.  You also get a better workout in less time so it makes training for an event fit into the rest of life easier.  There is also usually a coach or trainer involved to help them with form and push them towards goals and help create a program that will result in strength and endurance gains they would not be able to realize riding outside under uncontrolled conditions.

Riding a trainer is not for me and is no substitute for riding outside when it comes to bike handling skills and traffic experience.  It is, however, a far better way to gain strength and endurance on the bike.  

Riding indoors on a trainer is not crazy, stupid or bad in any way; in fact I would rather have people training there than on the LFP passing everyone super close at 20mph...  

Mike Zumwalt said:

I don't know anyone pays for a gym membership to ride a stationary, it's not like real riding just pedaling.

If you have children at home or are in some type of muscle rehab. then yeah but even then you can get a simple stand that raises your back wheel off the ground or you want to watch a loop video of Pee Wee or E.T. flying, or you love texting while pedaling.

I saw a kid on training wheels get his rear wheel just off the ground so he was pedaling like crazy going nowhere and it was fun, if you're 5.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 12, 2013 at 3:30am

A trainer and a spin bike are not the same but go do a spin class and let me know how your legs feel after compared to after your commute...

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

A trainer is not a spin machine. AFAIK, they all have adjustable resistance, so perhaps yai danche was riding on the lowest setting?

notoriousDUG said:

Wait; you think riding a trainer requires less physical exertion?

Have you ever even been on one?

yai danche said:

It's not terrible!  It's like those driving simulators before you get into a car.  Actually not really.  Spinning isn't a very accurate introduction to bike commuting.  For one thing, there's less physical exertion.  I hope their stationary bike mile counter at least encourages them to think they could physically bike commute.  

Permalink Reply by Adam Herstein on June 12, 2013 at 3:39am

No one is saying that spinning/training is stupid. It clearly has its purposes. The point we are trying to make is that it has no place at an event that is promoting bike riding for transportation.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 12, 2013 at 5:47am

I see a lot of people claiming it is not cycling and that it is not as good a work out; same thing to me based on the tone of this whole thread.

Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:

No one is saying that spinning/training is stupid. It clearly has its purposes. The point we are trying to make is that it has no place at an event that is promoting bike riding for transportation.

Permalink Reply by Melissa on June 12, 2013 at 5:56am

++1

Michael B said:

Spinning can be a gateway drug to regular biking.

I've been doing the spin class at my YMCA for years. It allows me to push myself hard safely & I like the music one particular instructor plays during the class. Quite a few times people in the class, after they find out that I'm a cyclist start asking me for advice about bikes, shops, equipment etc. The next thing you know they're biking themselves. 

A lot of people who start spinning haven't been on a bike in years & it's an ideal way for them to get their feet wet without having to deal with the dangers of actually riding on the street.

So I believe it is an appropriate way promote cycling.

Permalink Reply by Melissa on June 12, 2013 at 5:57am

++1

notoriousDUG said:

People pay a membership to ride a spin bike or on a Computrainer because it provides them with a better workout in less time than riding on the street or path.  With a trainer people can set resistence and maintain a certain power output and cadence because there is no traffic to contend with.  You also get a better workout in less time so it makes training for an event fit into the rest of life easier.  There is also usually a coach or trainer involved to help them with form and push them towards goals and help create a program that will result in strength and endurance gains they would not be able to realize riding outside under uncontrolled conditions.

Riding a trainer is not for me and is no substitute for riding outside when it comes to bike handling skills and traffic experience.  It is, however, a far better way to gain strength and endurance on the bike.  

Riding indoors on a trainer is not crazy, stupid or bad in any way; in fact I would rather have people training there than on the LFP passing everyone super close at 20mph...  

Mike Zumwalt said:

I don't know anyone pays for a gym membership to ride a stationary, it's not like real riding just pedaling.

If you have children at home or are in some type of muscle rehab. then yeah but even then you can get a simple stand that raises your back wheel off the ground or you want to watch a loop video of Pee Wee or E.T. flying, or you love texting while pedaling.

I saw a kid on training wheels get his rear wheel just off the ground so he was pedaling like crazy going nowhere and it was fun, if you're 5.

Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on June 12, 2013 at 6:47am

especially this part:

... in fact I would rather have people training there than on the LFP passing everyone super close at 20mph...  

Melissa said:

++1

notoriousDUG said:

People pay a membership to ride a spin bike or on a Computrainer because it provides them with a better workout in less time than riding on the street or path.  With a trainer people can set resistence and maintain a certain power output and cadence because there is no traffic to contend with.  You also get a better workout in less time so it makes training for an event fit into the rest of life easier.  There is also usually a coach or trainer involved to help them with form and push them towards goals and help create a program that will result in strength and endurance gains they would not be able to realize riding outside under uncontrolled conditions.

Riding a trainer is not for me and is no substitute for riding outside when it comes to bike handling skills and traffic experience.  It is, however, a far better way to gain strength and endurance on the bike.  

Riding indoors on a trainer is not crazy, stupid or bad in any way; in fact I would rather have people training there than on the LFP passing everyone super close at 20mph...  

Mike Zumwalt said:

I don't know anyone pays for a gym membership to ride a stationary, it's not like real riding just pedaling.

If you have children at home or are in some type of muscle rehab. then yeah but even then you can get a simple stand that raises your back wheel off the ground or you want to watch a loop video of Pee Wee or E.T. flying, or you love texting while pedaling.

I saw a kid on training wheels get his rear wheel just off the ground so he was pedaling like crazy going nowhere and it was fun, if you're 5.

Permalink Reply by Gene Tenner on June 12, 2013 at 6:57am

Holding the Bike Chicago Film Night at Millenium Park, a venue that does not allow bikes and has only two small bike racks. I was kicked around 3 times: you have to walk your bike (although riding a trike is much safer); you cannot sit on your bike; and then no bikes are allowed at all, so leave or lock it up at the opposite end from where you are at those two racks in the back.

Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on June 12, 2013 at 7:02am

The Pritzker Pavilion has only two small racks, but there are a lot of racks around the perimeter of Millennium Park. There are not enough racks to meet the demand during high-turnout events, but there are a lot more than just two racks. 

Gene Tenner said:

Holding the Bike Chicago Film Night at Millenium Park, a venue that does not allow bikes and has only two small bike racks. I was kicked around 3 times: you have to walk your bike (although riding a trike is much safer); you cannot sit on your bike; and then no bikes are allowed at all, so leave or lock it up at the opposite end from where you are at those two racks in the back.

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