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The first day of Spring is March 20th

 

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Permalink Reply by heather s on March 1, 2010 at 5:10pm
I would never have assumed you're a jerk for calling me a feminist. I am a feminist. It's not an insult.

(btw, I'm from Chicago! just went to school in Vermont)

Gabe said:
Hey Dug, the feminist slams were against me cause i called a girl a feminist. But it was assumed ahead of time that i was just being a jerk where as i had already seen she was a feminist and from Vermont one of my fav states. Doesn't mean I'm not a jerk just means i do my research. ;-)
Permalink Reply by Vilda on March 1, 2010 at 5:12pm
Heather Said:
I am saying that women, and women's bodies, are not here for your amusement or pleasure. And I think that imagery such as what appears in this thread reinforces the entrenched cultural valuation of women as sexual objects.

The Problem:
You're arguments thus far have been the worst kind of stereotypical feminist garbage. And your argument above is only true if you let it be true. You can see a beautiful women on a bike in the spring or you can see a commodity that has become devalued by it's very proliferation.
Permalink Reply by Michelle Green on March 1, 2010 at 5:13pm
No, not dead! What good are they to us if they're dead? Dead men open no jars.

notoriousDUG said:
They stack better that way.

Gabe said:
Dead bodies?
Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on March 1, 2010 at 5:19pm
Wrong. I know nothing about you or how much of a feminist you are or anything else, I am basing my opinions on your posts.

You're over thinking the whole thing, you gave a knee jerk reaction assuming the worst rather then just see something the simple, and innocent, appreciation of the female form.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar if you know what I mean.

Just curious but how do you feel about the picture Shay posted?

heather said:
You are projecting onto me a tired stereotype about feminists (we hate sex and everything else that is fun) rather than listening to what I have said. I do not have a problem with anyone finding anyone else attractive. I am not saying that people who like looking at naked women hate or disrespect women. I am saying that women, and women's bodies, are not here for your amusement or pleasure. And I think that imagery such as what appears in this thread reinforces the entrenched cultural valuation of women as sexual objects.

notoriousDUG said:
It is pretty horrible for people to find women so attractive they discuss it.

Just curious but while you are busy hating fun does it ever occur to you just how ignorant and presumptuous your way of looking at things is? Somebody posts that they are happy spring is coming because they enjoy the nice weather and attractive women wearing less clothing and you immediately assume they are objectifying and disrespecting women.

Why can't it be that they appreciate pretty women but still respect them and have an interest in their brain?

I like pretty girls and am looking forward springtime coming not just for the weather but for the cute girls in spring dresses; am I sexist jerk?

My summer gear; better not find me attractive...
Permalink Reply by Leah on March 1, 2010 at 5:24pm
This thread has gone beyond its original usefulness (whatever it may have been). Please continue this conversation off the board.
Permalink Reply by Bernard Joseph Hannigan on March 1, 2010 at 6:41pm
Geez Louise!....I did not mean to start a wild controversy since I am butt a mere newbie on the Link. No offense was intended. I am in advertising and photography, both photo's came from what I thought were great ads. Perhaps some of us creatives are less sensitive to nudity than others because, well maybe, it is not that big a deal.

Oh and Shay?...Check out the size of that guy's foot, you know what that means!

Peace....Love....Spring
Permalink Reply by Vilda on March 1, 2010 at 6:59pm
Are we back on the air ladies and gentleman? Daniel Laruso is gonna fight? Daniel Laruso is gonna fight! ;-)

Bernard it's a great thing. You meant to welcome he new season! Well done! ;-) A debate broke out and that happens. ;-) How else do people learn? ;-)
Permalink Reply by heather s on March 1, 2010 at 7:33pm
I think it would be difficult to argue that I could "let" sexual objectification of women be "true" or not. We are all socialized and embedded in social structures that influence, constrain, enable, and shape our dispositions toward and capacities for action. We are all actors in these structures and institutions, and in turn they are shaped by the actions of individuals. Unfortunately, we live in a society which devalues women and commodifies women's bodies. That is not your fault or mine. I am not blaming you as an actor. BUT we do not make our decisions in a vacuum. And I think we should peer through the lens of history and culture when thinking about how the imagery of women's bodies is used. And, I think that you should have the decency to listen and reflect when someone is telling you that your words and assumptions are hurtful and offensive.

Gabe said:
The Problem:
You're arguments thus far have been the worst kind of stereotypical feminist garbage. And your argument above is only true if you let it be true. You can see a beautiful women on a bike in the spring or you can see a commodity that has become devalued by it's very proliferation.
Permalink Reply by Vilda on March 1, 2010 at 8:03pm
Women become objects in this silly game because they let themselves become objects. Your argument would be better suited for strippers and hookers. Those women say they choose to do what they do as an act of empowerment but usually are addicted to a substance or forced into it by circumstance.

The pics that have been posted thus far haven't crossed any lines as they have tastefully exposed just enough but no so much that it would just be porn.

As for offended I would think the most hurtful think i've said was that you needed to buy a sense of humor. So far still kinda true. And you were offended cause i said post of a pic of what you wear when riding. But I would hpoe you understand now that you misunderstood that all together.
Permalink Reply by Michael Perz on March 1, 2010 at 8:16pm
Oooh, yeah. Just like that. Take it off, baby.

Take it ALL OFF!





ooOOOOOHHHHHHHH, YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on March 1, 2010 at 8:19pm


Gabe said:
Women become objects in this silly game because they let themselves become objects. Your argument would be better suited for strippers and hookers. Those women say they choose to do what they do as an act of empowerment but usually are addicted to a substance or forced into it by circumstance.

The pics that have been posted thus far haven't crossed any lines as they have tastefully exposed just enough but no so much that it would just be porn.

As for offended I would think the most hurtful think i've said was that you needed to buy a sense of humor. So far still kinda true. And you were offended cause i said post of a pic of what you wear when riding. But I would hpoe you understand now that you misunderstood that all together.
Permalink Reply by Michael Perz on March 1, 2010 at 8:20pm
(I have some bathtub photos taken just prior to that one, but they're definitely NSFW.)

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