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Permalink Reply by Michelle S on July 19, 2011 at 10:58am

Very sad. It sounds like he suffered a head injury. I hope they can figure out more details about when and how the crash occurred. My thoughts are with Francisco's family.

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Permalink Reply by Anne on July 19, 2011 at 6:20pm

terrible news.

any medical types on here that can give tips on head injuries for the layman or first responder? Can't help but think that if he'd been under observation or checked out by EMS this could've been avoided.

this has been a big discussion after some of the big Tour crashes (ie, Chris Horner) and how to make sure the rider (who may say "I'm fine" and continue on their way) is checked over.

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Permalink Reply by Spencer Schmid on July 19, 2011 at 8:11pm

Really sad.

Be careful out there gang. 

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Permalink Reply by Anne on July 20, 2011 at 9:28am

Thanks!

would you say that if there is evidence on the helmet of impact, regardless of visible trauma to the scalp, that the rider should be checked out?

h333 said:

"Medical type" here.

A trained first responder would check orientation (person/place/day-date) and score the victim according to the Glascow Coma scale:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Coma_Scale

Beyond that there would not be much the person on the scene could do in a situation like Francisco's-- once in the ER he'd be x-rayed for skull fractures, given a CT of the head to check for a bleed as a matter of course, held for observation if anything was questionable, and maybe given an MRI if there was anything unclear or ominous about the CT.

I think it's pretty certain that something would have been spotted had he been transported to a hospital from the scene, and that he'd still be alive.

 

Anne said:

terrible news.

any medical types on here that can give tips on head injuries for the layman or first responder? Can't help but think that if he'd been under observation or checked out by EMS this could've been avoided.

this has been a big discussion after some of the big Tour crashes (ie, Chris Horner) and how to make sure the rider (who may say "I'm fine" and continue on their way) is checked over.

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