More ways to die.

Wandering all over that line between legitimate thrill seeking and being semisuicidal - this guy being all over that line. Sure one pothole and the guy is dead but it's the constant surfer salutes that some how gets under my skin for reasons I don't quite understand.

124 kh = ~78mph

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. 18.5KM on October 5, 2014 at 12:19pm
78 MPH. No bicycle helmet would help and he still retrieved his phone. Did he live through this? Also, it's possible to go 78 MPH without getting on the highway. Really dumb.
Permalink Reply by millenial removing Bernie tattoo on October 5, 2014 at 2:54pm

lol, beta male nerds hating @ chill, fratty roadie bros.

YOLO!

Permalink Reply by Craig S. on October 6, 2014 at 2:53am

"One day on RAGBRAI..." wow, I could start way too many stories with that line, a lot of them because of, umm, too much vodka/beer/liquor/booze/hootch.

clp said:

One day at RAGBRAI, after maybe too many miles, and too many beers, I drafted an 18-wheeler right up through the RAGBRAI pack for half an hour.  We never hit 78mph, but it was fast.  And I was the talk of the beer tent that night.

The tremendous suction created by those large trucks, combined with the increased stability resulting from the gyroscopic effect of the bike's wheels rotating at such high speeds, gives riders a unique feeling of confidence.  And yes, machismo!  Those that have never drafted a big rig should try it before they criticize it.  Motor-pacing is a unique and legitimate cycling experience.

Permalink Reply by Mike Zumwalt on October 6, 2014 at 6:00am

I drafted a Pedi Cab once through Wrigleyville, not that exiting.

Permalink Reply by Mike Schwab on October 6, 2014 at 6:08am

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18mewmFNOQ

Myth Busters drafting a semi on a bicycle.

Permalink Reply by Kevin C Dormant on October 6, 2014 at 6:55am

Broken News: Drafting Works!!!

Mike Schwab said:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18mewmFNOQ

Myth Busters drafting a semi on a bicycle.

Permalink Reply by Haddon on October 6, 2014 at 11:55am

Nay, highly dangerous. 

At those sorts of speeds on thin tires one nail or screw (perhaps less stuff tumbles and bounces off of trucks all the time) could cause a crash.  Even a decent clumb of mud could do it.  A spill at 77mph in some lycra and no helmet makes for plenty of needed skin grafting

The fascinating thing about drafting is that the person behind gets a boost (decreased energy output) but the person IN FRONT gets a nominal boost as well. Short: the slipstream doesn't close right behind which itself causes some drag. At min 1:28 if the embed is faulty.

Permalink Reply by Matt M. 18.5KM on October 7, 2014 at 4:06am
Good point! I just want to hear about fewer dead cyclists. I'll be using that super macho hand gesture though.....!

rwein5 said:

HA! Typical complainlink post. These guys are strong cyclists and have a fascinating video to share. Nothing bad happened. Why do you spend so much energy worrying about hypotheticals? Were you this crotchety when you watched Breaking Away? Just watch and enjoy, Jesus.

Also regarding your musing on drafting, I'm not sure where you get the idea that the slipstream "causes" drag. In fact, it's really the the result of drag created by the head rider. Because that slipstream only eliminates ~50% following drag, the rear rider is still pushing a significant portion of air as they draft. This pushing creates a high pressure pocket in front of the rear rider, which the front rider "benefits" from. Further, this recorded 4% reduction in drag for the front rider would likely be completely unnoticeable at typical speeds. According to Sheldon Brown, at 22 mph over 25 miles, a 4% drag reduction would be associated with only a 33 second time improvement. That's not really relevant for an average cyclist.

Permalink Reply by Haddon on October 7, 2014 at 2:38pm

A) "HA! Typical complainlink post."

A nominal google search "posted by rwein5" yields a single result, you selling wheels. One, in all your time here. Complaining about the quality of posts when you don't undertake it must relate to a Woody Allen quote, the exact one escapes me. Please, try it, put something up and watch 1/4-1/3 of the replies being pointlessly acerbic to one party of another.

I wish you and the rest of you all the best, please do stay warm and safe in all your travels, my schedule is filling up and this site causes me more angst than care to undertake at the moment.

Thank you all,

H



rwein5 said:

HA! Typical complainlink post. These guys are strong cyclists and have a fascinating video to share. Nothing bad happened. Why do you spend so much energy worrying about hypotheticals? Were you this crotchety when you watched Breaking Away? Just watch and enjoy, Jesus.

Also regarding your musing on drafting, I'm not sure where you get the idea that the slipstream "causes" drag. In fact, it's really the the result of drag created by the head rider. Because that slipstream only eliminates ~50% following drag, the rear rider is still pushing a significant portion of air as they draft. This pushing creates a high pressure pocket in front of the rear rider, which the front rider "benefits" from. Further, this recorded 4% reduction in drag for the front rider would likely be completely unnoticeable at typical speeds. According to Sheldon Brown, at 22 mph over 25 miles, a 4% drag reduction would be associated with only a 33 second time improvement. That's not really relevant for an average cyclist.

Permalink Reply by Tandemonium on October 7, 2014 at 3:25pm

...and they are clown bike wheels. perfect.

Permalink Reply by Matt M. 18.5KM on October 7, 2014 at 6:19pm

..."Good point" means that you made some provocative arguments and I was looking forward to being entertained by further discussion.....but I still think these highway riders are douche bags.

Matt M. 18.5KM said:

Good point! I just want to hear about fewer dead cyclists. I'll be using that super macho hand gesture though.....!

rwein5 said:

HA! Typical complainlink post. These guys are strong cyclists and have a fascinating video to share. Nothing bad happened. Why do you spend so much energy worrying about hypotheticals? Were you this crotchety when you watched Breaking Away? Just watch and enjoy, Jesus.

Also regarding your musing on drafting, I'm not sure where you get the idea that the slipstream "causes" drag. In fact, it's really the the result of drag created by the head rider. Because that slipstream only eliminates ~50% following drag, the rear rider is still pushing a significant portion of air as they draft. This pushing creates a high pressure pocket in front of the rear rider, which the front rider "benefits" from. Further, this recorded 4% reduction in drag for the front rider would likely be completely unnoticeable at typical speeds. According to Sheldon Brown, at 22 mph over 25 miles, a 4% drag reduction would be associated with only a 33 second time improvement. That's not really relevant for an average cyclist.

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