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Three possible factors were mentioned: recent price increases, a rash of deaths, and poor maintenance. Concluding from one month's year-over-year numbers that the system is in trouble is nuts. It seems true they have problems, but there's no indication how long ridership has been falling, or any correlation with recent events which almost certainly would depress ridership, at least for a short period.
Thanks Ace for a very well written and thoughtful post. I'm wondering too if the weather had any impact? I'm sure it was a combination of circumstances. If we raised gas taxes to a more appropriate level, that factored in better environmental and energy imperatives as well as health and safety concerns we'd be doing ourselves a big favor. This idea has long been on the table but I would temper it by offering tax breaks to people/companies who's livelihood depended directly on transportation and better incentives to use public transportation. You can do a lot with an enlightened tax policy. The British managed to avoid the French revolution by taxing landowners to the point where they had to sell off their holdings.
Well, the Brits were never known for making great cars, Aston Martin and Rolls Royce aside, so maybe it's a little bit too much to expect them to make a good public bike utility.
h' 1.0 said:
I did spend kind of a stupid amount of time searching, and found November 2012 temps were higher than November 2013 for the most part:
Could not find historical info on snow accumulation.I found a mention that a Barclay-Bike has to be docked for 5 minutes before you can take it out again. That's unusual and pretty damn prohibitive IMO.
Skip Montanaro 12mi said:
Three possible factors were mentioned: recent price increases, a rash of deaths, and poor maintenance. Concluding from one month's year-over-year numbers that the system is in trouble is nuts. It seems true they have problems, but there's no indication how long ridership has been falling, or any correlation with recent events which almost certainly would depress ridership, at least for a short period.
Hmmm, interesting. Also keep in mind those temps are Centigrade not Fahrenheit so the differences are larger than would appear to an American at first glance and may have had an impact. I don't imagine London City would be much different from London Heathrow.
Clearly though, you would have done well had you sold the Nov 2012 temperature on Tuesday the 12th and then closed out the short sale on Friday, Nov 30. (I work in the securities industry, so please forgive me.)
h' 1.0 said:
I did spend kind of a stupid amount of time searching, and found November 2012 temps were higher than November 2013 for the most part:
Could not find historical info on snow accumulation.I found a mention that a Barclay-Bike has to be docked for 5 minutes before you can take it out again. That's unusual and pretty damn prohibitive IMO.
Skip Montanaro 12mi said:
Three possible factors were mentioned: recent price increases, a rash of deaths, and poor maintenance. Concluding from one month's year-over-year numbers that the system is in trouble is nuts. It seems true they have problems, but there's no indication how long ridership has been falling, or any correlation with recent events which almost certainly would depress ridership, at least for a short period.
Maybe all the bike-share riders bought their own bikes?
Actually, it's rather straightforward and should be a big RED FLAG for all things "bikey" in Chicago's future. London's Mayor, Boris Johnson, has done squat to make the program self-sufficient and Barclay's will end its sponsorship in 2015. At least London has dedicated bike transportation professionals in its gov't.
This appears to be a part, but only a part, of the decline. A lot of folks tried the hire-bikes for a year or two and graduated themselves on to their own bike. Good news for cycling, bad news for the hire scheme.
There have been consistent complaints, however, that there are too many racks without bikes, that there aren't enough racks, that the bikes are in bad shape and that that cost is too high. Ridership was falling, albeit only slightly, prior to the rates being doubled which seems to have caused them to drop like a stone.
Maybe all the bike-share riders bought their own bikes?
1400 pounds per bicycle for bicycles that are ridden 5 hours a day? Fairly low maintenance.
Realistically or not, the goal of the London program was that it would be self-sufficient, at least independent of any tax dollars beyond support for capital and infrastructure costs. The sponsorship and the usage fees were supposed to be enough cash to cover the operating expenses. TfL does a lot of polling and one of the complaints the public has about the program is that it is costing the taxpayer money when they were told it wouldn't. Juxtaposed is a complaint from the users that the increased fee structure makes cycling expensive enough that many people would rather take public transit. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, perhaps, but if one of the reasons the program was succeeding was because it was cheaper than public transit, I'm not certain how long it will be able to survive without government spending tax dollars to support it. Hell, let me rephrase that: I'm certain the program(me) can't survive without government spending tax dollars to support it.
h' 1.0 said:
Well.... is the goal of such a program to ultimately be self-sufficient?
I read (possibly in the linked article) that there is little data available as to what sort of revenue any of the bike share programs actually generate (would love to be corrected on that)..... but I don't know how we leaped to the idea that a bike share program is supposed to be profitable enough to be completely self-sustaining. Divvy was presented as a transit option, a "last mile" solution to complement bus and commuter rail..... I don't see much criticism of Metra or CTA for not being completely self-sustaining.
globalguy said:Actually, it's rather straightforward and should be a big RED FLAG for all things "bikey" in Chicago's future. London's Mayor, Boris Johnson, has done squat to make the program self-sufficient and Barclay's will end its sponsorship in 2015. At least London has dedicated bike transportation professionals in its gov't.
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