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Permalink Reply by Joe TV on May 23, 2011 at 4:56pm

This person's name is TAMMY.  Tammy Thomas.  Not exactly the type of athletic success story you'd encourage your DAUGHTER to become.  

 

http://charles.pelkey.com/tammy.html

chixieonfixie said:

uhm.  What IS that?

Joe TV said:

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Permalink Reply by Kevin C Dormant on May 23, 2011 at 4:58pm

Wow, that wasn't very easy to find! The photo is of Tammy Thomas a US track cyclist and specialist in the sprint and the 500-meter time trial. Received two year ban in 2000 for doping while trying to qualify for US Olympic team. Banned for life in August 2002 for 2nd positive test. Convicted of perjury in 2008 for false statements regarding her own steroid use to a BALCO grand jury. Thrown out of law school for perjury conviction. Sentenced to prison. Hard to believe she was able to avoid detection for so long. Here's a picture of her before winning the silver medal in sprint at the 2001 world championships:

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on May 24, 2011 at 2:12am

Who is going to regulate all of those classes and rules and where is the money to do it going to come from?

 

How interesting do you think the racing will be when there are fifty classes with 2 riders each based on doping choices?

 

 

El Gecko said:

I've often wondered the same thing myself.  Why not just classify them differently?  Then doping would be basically legalized, and with corporate support and regulation, it might actually be somewhat safer.  Also, new tests to go along with the technology might be inevitable, because if the researchers will be trying to find new ways to dope, they're going to want to measure them accurately.  Ever since I learned about doping, I've always wondered why they couldn't just re-class the races, similar to cars and drag racing.  One class for blood dopers only, one class for "factory-stock humans", one class for EPO guys, and one class for "pro-modified", i.e. James' open-juicer-cheater class.  Also, "tech inspection" for humans would be required like drug tests are now, and new limits would have to be set on certain things to keep everyone honest.  Possibly they would have to go to a range system, such as if your synthetic testosterone level is in a certain range, you race in a certain class, and if it's higher or lower, you race in another.  Also, no matter what class you're racing in, everyone gets tested the same.  Just throwing it out there.

James Baum said:

Why the big deal with the juice anyhow?  I don't see why there isn't just separate classes for athletes who want to juice up and those that don't.    Those who are all into getting that list micro-erg of performance out of their bodies can shoot up with whatever compounds,  gene-surgery or whatever bio-implants they can think up in the open-juicer-cheater class and then those who want to remain juice-free can run in the "factory-stock human" class.

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Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on May 24, 2011 at 2:38am

Who regulates it now?  -Who cares?

 

I've got absolutely zero interest in following bicycle racing myself.  It doesn't matter really -but maybe if the sport wasn't so full of cheaters, dopers, and scandal it might be less disgusting and I might be more willing to open my mind to paying attention. 

 

As it is, I just enjoy riding and wrenching on bikes.  And by riding I mean just tooling around and not dressing up like a missile and trying to break the sound barrier by going as fast as it is humanly possible.  Give me an old upright roadster and some cherry blossoms to ride through.  I laugh at the spandex crowd but to each their own. 

notoriousDUG said:

Who is going to regulate all of those classes and rules and where is the money to do it going to come from?

 

How interesting do you think the racing will be when there are fifty classes with 2 riders each based on doping choices?

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Liz on May 24, 2011 at 6:53am

Greg LeMond was treated like a pariah becuase he's an egotistical jerk.  Speaking your mind is one thing, spending years obsessing over someone else's career becuase they're ranked higher than you is another.

I honestly believe that if Lemond had said his piece and dropped the issue, than he would be getting greater support.

 

Kevin T. said:

I agree, Greg was treated like a pariah for speaking his mind he stuck to his guns and suffered the consequences.  

Dr. Doom said:

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe Armstrong and his entourage are in extra trouble, perhaps legally and certainly politically, because the federal government dropped tens of millions of dollars on sponsoring him. Whatever you think of doping prosecutions, it's not hard to see why the feds would be especially pissed off at a guy using federal money for what was essentially an international drug trafficking ring.

I'd like to have a beer with Greg LeMond right now. He must be laughing his ass off, as he's been saying for many many years that Armstrong is the most obvious doper in all of sports, and been written off as a bitter has-been for doing so.

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Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on May 24, 2011 at 9:37am

It isn't so easy keeping your mouth shut when someone who all this time is cheating and getting away with it  -beating you and lauging in your face about it while nobody does anything.

 

Maybe Greg should have just dropped the issue and grabbed some juice for himself so he could compete on an even playing field since it was obvious that is how the game is played (and won.)

Liz said:

Speaking your mind is one thing, spending years obsessing over someone else's career becuase they're ranked higher than you is another.

I honestly believe that if Lemond had said his piece and dropped the issue, than he would be getting greater support.

 

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Permalink Reply by chixieonfixie on May 24, 2011 at 1:21pm

Bwhahahah....good one, lol

Kevin Conway said:

Wow, that wasn't very easy to find! The photo is of Tammy Thomas a US track cyclist and specialist in the sprint and the 500-meter time trial. Received two year ban in 2000 for doping while trying to qualify for US Olympic team. Banned for life in August 2002 for 2nd positive test. Convicted of perjury in 2008 for false statements regarding her own steroid use to a BALCO grand jury. Thrown out of law school for perjury conviction. Sentenced to prison. Hard to believe she was able to avoid detection for so long. Here's a picture of her before winning the silver medal in sprint at the 2001 world championships:

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Kevin T. on November 30, 2012 at 1:33pm

How about that egotistical bastard. He he

Liz said:

Greg LeMond was treated like a pariah becuase he's an egotistical jerk.  Speaking your mind is one thing, spending years obsessing over someone else's career becuase they're ranked higher than you is another.

I honestly believe that if Lemond had said his piece and dropped the issue, than he would be getting greater support.

 

Kevin T. said:

I agree, Greg was treated like a pariah for speaking his mind he stuck to his guns and suffered the consequences.  

Dr. Doom said:

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe Armstrong and his entourage are in extra trouble, perhaps legally and certainly politically, because the federal government dropped tens of millions of dollars on sponsoring him. Whatever you think of doping prosecutions, it's not hard to see why the feds would be especially pissed off at a guy using federal money for what was essentially an international drug trafficking ring.

I'd like to have a beer with Greg LeMond right now. He must be laughing his ass off, as he's been saying for many many years that Armstrong is the most obvious doper in all of sports, and been written off as a bitter has-been for doing so.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin T. on January 18, 2013 at 1:15pm

Oops, guess Greg was right all along. Poor sociopath Lance, he has not one regret over his actions including all those lawsuits.


Liz said:

Greg LeMond was treated like a pariah becuase he's an egotistical jerk.  Speaking your mind is one thing, spending years obsessing over someone else's career becuase they're ranked higher than you is another.

I honestly believe that if Lemond had said his piece and dropped the issue, than he would be getting greater support.

 

Kevin T. said:

I agree, Greg was treated like a pariah for speaking his mind he stuck to his guns and suffered the consequences.  

Dr. Doom said:

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe Armstrong and his entourage are in extra trouble, perhaps legally and certainly politically, because the federal government dropped tens of millions of dollars on sponsoring him. Whatever you think of doping prosecutions, it's not hard to see why the feds would be especially pissed off at a guy using federal money for what was essentially an international drug trafficking ring.

I'd like to have a beer with Greg LeMond right now. He must be laughing his ass off, as he's been saying for many many years that Armstrong is the most obvious doper in all of sports, and been written off as a bitter has-been for doing so.

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