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I am the last in line who gives a crap.. Not only a possibly a doper, but possibly brought up on charges for defrauding the government and conspiracy!?!?!?!?! Please, say it's so!

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Conspiring to do what?

Lance JuiceCake 4000?

 

 

 

Never heard of him...

It is illegal to undertake acts in furtherance of the commission of a crime even when the underlying crime doesn't occur. Obtaining and distributing prescription drugs without a prescription and/or illegal drugs is a crime. If the Hamilton allegations can be proven, Lance is probably guilty of both conspiracy to commit the crime and the crime.

Mike Zumwalt said:
Conspiring to do what?
You don't give a crap, yet you want to see him charged with something?  Interesting...

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe Armstrong and his entourage are in extra trouble, perhaps legally and certainly politically, because the federal government dropped tens of millions of dollars on sponsoring him. Whatever you think of doping prosecutions, it's not hard to see why the feds would be especially pissed off at a guy using federal money for what was essentially an international drug trafficking ring.

I'd like to have a beer with Greg LeMond right now. He must be laughing his ass off, as he's been saying for many many years that Armstrong is the most obvious doper in all of sports, and been written off as a bitter has-been for doing so.

Why the big deal with the juice anyhow?  I don't see why there isn't just separate classes for athletes who want to juice up and those that don't.    Those who are all into getting that list micro-erg of performance out of their bodies can shoot up with whatever compounds,  gene-surgery or whatever bio-implants they can think up in the open-juicer-cheater class and then those who want to remain juice-free can run in the "factory-stock human" class.
Of course, with this scenario, there would be dopers in the "factory-stock human" class trying to hide their drug use.

James Baum said:
Why the big deal with the juice anyhow?  I don't see why there isn't just separate classes for athletes who want to juice up and those that don't.    Those who are all into getting that list micro-erg of performance out of their bodies can shoot up with whatever compounds,  gene-surgery or whatever bio-implants they can think up in the open-juicer-cheater class and then those who want to remain juice-free can run in the "factory-stock human" class.
I've often wondered the same thing myself.  Why not just classify them differently?  Then doping would be basically legalized, and with corporate support and regulation, it might actually be somewhat safer.  Also, new tests to go along with the technology might be inevitable, because if the researchers will be trying to find new ways to dope, they're going to want to measure them accurately.  Ever since I learned about doping, I've always wondered why they couldn't just re-class the races, similar to cars and drag racing.  One class for blood dopers only, one class for "factory-stock humans", one class for EPO guys, and one class for "pro-modified", i.e. James' open-juicer-cheater class.  Also, "tech inspection" for humans would be required like drug tests are now, and new limits would have to be set on certain things to keep everyone honest.  Possibly they would have to go to a range system, such as if your synthetic testosterone level is in a certain range, you race in a certain class, and if it's higher or lower, you race in another.  Also, no matter what class you're racing in, everyone gets tested the same.  Just throwing it out there.

James Baum said:
Why the big deal with the juice anyhow?  I don't see why there isn't just separate classes for athletes who want to juice up and those that don't.    Those who are all into getting that list micro-erg of performance out of their bodies can shoot up with whatever compounds,  gene-surgery or whatever bio-implants they can think up in the open-juicer-cheater class and then those who want to remain juice-free can run in the "factory-stock human" class.
What I find interesting is the fact that his people possibly took care of a positive test during the tour de swiss. It makes me wonder if Lance's people could do that maybe they had a part in the random health test the Marco Pantani was forced to take during the giro in 1999. He was to be Lances biggest competition that year in the tour! Which started Pantani's downward spiral !
uhm.  What IS that?

Joe TV said:
Is that a young Bill Murray?

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