Good Spot For A Bike Lane - Damen Ave.
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Permalink Reply by Adam Herstein on
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Damen is already a good bike route, and with BRT being considered on Ashland and Western with no bike infrastructure, Damen would be a good candidate for a bike lane given that it's sandwiched in-between the two.
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Permalink Reply by John Farris on
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I've got no preference myself, I am a driver in that region. But I guess there are a lot of people who bike from the hospital campus to the Pink Line that way, or to some cheap apartments southward, who I regularly see under the tracks. Obviously Damen is more expedient than Wood or Paulina for these folks, for them to chance the run. Heck, forget the designate, just get some good lighting down there!
P.S. "BRT"?
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Permalink Reply by Thunder Snow on
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What is Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)?
BRT is a term applied to a variety of bus service designs in order to provide faster, more efficient, and more reliable service than an ordinary bus line. Often this is achieved by making improvements to existing street and traffic infrastructure (for instance, dedicated bus lanes and transit signal priority (TSP) systems). Typically high-capacity, uniquely-identified buses are used. Bus stops are usually improved to contain rail station-like amenities (for instance, digital customer information, additional seating and enhanced shelters).
http://www.transitchicago.com/westernashlandbrt/
John Farris said:P.S. "BRT"?
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Permalink Reply by Dovah Cat on
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This is an almost daily route for me - from (south of 21st) to (north of Belmont). It's a relatively safe ride, but that underpass can get pretty worrisome on a snowy night. It's hard to stay to the right in bad weather under there - water tends to collect en masse right where a bike can safely go. I'm interested in learning how I can help ask for, at least, better lighting. I've had a few cars pass me a bit too closely under those bridges and I'd love to see improvements that could help keep me visible and safe. Thanks so much for posting this!
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If you are worried about motorists passing you too closely, then ride in the middle of the lane so they can't pass you. You're legally allowed to take the lane if it is not safe to ride on the right. Then, once it is safe to do so, move back to the right side. Also make sure to get a bright set of lights so motorists can see you.
Dovah Cat said:This is an almost daily route for me - from (south of 21st) to (north of Belmont). It's a relatively safe ride, but that underpass can get pretty worrisome on a snowy night. It's hard to stay to the right in bad weather under there - water tends to collect en masse right where a bike can safely go. I'm interested in learning how I can help ask for, at least, better lighting. I've had a few cars pass me a bit too closely under those bridges and I'd love to see improvements that could help keep me visible and safe. Thanks so much for posting this!
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Wow, really? You don't even know me yet you are apparently judging my riding skill? Taking the lane is far safer than riding far to the right and having motorists come within inches of hitting you with their cars. Riding in the middle of the lane makes you more visible; collisions from behind are rare. I ride in the middle of the lane frequently when I deem it unsafe to ride to the right and typically don't have any problems.
h' said:Adam, be careful sitting behind your keyboard in the warmth of your home imploring others to take the lane. You don't know who you're dealing with on the other end in terms of skill and comfort level, ability to keep one's composure in tense situations, etc. "Take the lane" works wonderfully, except for the times you get killed.
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The reason cyclist don't take the sidewalk is that the sidewalk is full of glass & hasn't been cleaned since the 1st mayor Daley was in office.
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I apologize – I did misread your post. I read "who" as "what" thus changing the whole subject of the sentence. I take back what I said to you. I probably shouldn't be checking Chainlink first thing in the morning before coffee!
h' said:Adam-- I think you misunderstood my response. Re-read?
Adam Herstein said:Wow, really? You don't even know me yet you are apparently judging my riding skill? Taking the lane is far safer than riding far to the right and having motorists come within inches of hitting you with their cars. Riding in the middle of the lane makes you more visible; collisions from behind are rare. I ride in the middle of the lane frequently when I deem it unsafe to ride to the right and typically don't have any problems.
h' said:Adam, be careful sitting behind your keyboard in the warmth of your home imploring others to take the lane. You don't know who you're dealing with on the other end in terms of skill and comfort level, ability to keep one's composure in tense situations, etc. "Take the lane" works wonderfully, except for the times you get killed.
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Actually, I don't think it's been swept since Big Bill Thompson won his first term.
Ace Mann said:The reason cyclist don't take the sidewalk is that the sidewalk is full of glass & hasn't been cleaned since the 1st mayor Daley was in office.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Schmoe on
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New project: Brooms for the South Side.
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Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on
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I take the lane pretty frequently especially the loop where traffic is moving slowly. But on Damen, there are some pretty treacherous stretches where I would not do so. For example, the entire length of the bridge over the river on the south side. That is effectively a four lane highway for motor vehicles. It is not uncommon to see people driving well over 60 MPH on that thing.
Adam Herstein said:Wow, really? You don't even know me yet you are apparently judging my riding skill? Taking the lane is far safer than riding far to the right and having motorists come within inches of hitting you with their cars. Riding in the middle of the lane makes you more visible; collisions from behind are rare. I ride in the middle of the lane frequently when I deem it unsafe to ride to the right and typically don't have any problems.
h' said:Adam, be careful sitting behind your keyboard in the warmth of your home imploring others to take the lane. You don't know who you're dealing with on the other end in terms of skill and comfort level, ability to keep one's composure in tense situations, etc. "Take the lane" works wonderfully, except for the times you get killed.
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Taking the lane in that bridge is dangerous, I've been honked at, harassed and, effectively, "driven at" by motorists who are frustrated with remaining behind me for the duration of the tunnel. I'm a relatively speedy cyclist, and quite confident, but with news of crashes and the nature of the majority of South Side drivers, I usually keep to the right, which, provided there aren't puddles or 30 packs of beer (this happens) gives me almost enough room. Sometimes I just don't feel pig-headed enough to stay in front of five angry trucks. I've lived in Chicago a year now, and have encountered far too many drivers here who think rushing at cyclists is a fun game. Solution? Not sure. If there's a lot of traffic, I slow it down and let the speedier vehicles pass before I enter the tunnel.
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