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Permalink Reply by Kevin Mulcky on April 14, 2013 at 1:26pm

Wow, GREAT frames at generous prices.

Permalink Reply by Alex on April 14, 2013 at 5:09pm

Yes. True. For real, these are nice frames that someone should be riding EVERY DAY. 

Also, I am trying to clear stuff out but would love to trade for a mixte frame or complete bike or anything in between.

Permalink Reply by Deet 4.5mi on April 15, 2013 at 4:33am

what is the width on the hub for each frame? 126mm?

Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on April 15, 2013 at 4:45am

I'd so jump at the Miyata if it were the size of the Bridgestone.  

The Bridgestone is a sweet frame that fits me but I don't need any more road frames without Canti studs.   For a $100 that's a lugged steel steal.  It'd make a killer project bike.   I just pray that Drew McFixter doesn't buy it and bob all the hangers/braze-ons.  That'd be a crime against humanity. 

Permalink Reply by Deet 4.5mi on April 15, 2013 at 4:54am

yea i am riding a 53cm Sh world tour, and it is great but a little tight, i would like to know the spacing on the wheels, it would seem a shame to have to spread the frame. The size looks like it would be just right.  It would make a great urban touring bike.

Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on April 15, 2013 at 5:06am

Spreading the frame on a steel bike is no big deal as long as you know what you are doing.   Going from 126 to 130, or even 135 doesn't really count as a "bend" so much as a "tweak."  No more of a big deal than adjusting the dropouts or the derailleur, which you'll have to do after spreading a frame anyhow.

Most of the times when I've spread a frame I end up getting the dropouts better aligned than the way they came from the factory and this is only using home-made DO alignment tools (cut in half axle and a string around the headset) 

On a steel full-sized frame it's no big deal and I wouldn't even worry about whether a frame had the right OLD when I bought it.  It's a simple fix.  On a BMX bike spreading the frame is another issue.  Much shorter stays, braced much more solidly, and the dropouts are often built into the chainstays halfway back to the BB shell.  No room to "tweak."   

But on a Road, CX or Touring frame with 700 or 27" wheels originally it's not a biggie. The amount you are bending the metal is almost totally inconsequential.   The frame-builder bent that tubing a LOT more when he was building it than someone who is just re-setting the OLD spacing of the dropouts. 

Permalink Reply by Brian S on April 15, 2013 at 6:29am

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Permalink Reply by Alex on April 15, 2013 at 7:12am

Frames are both 126mm spacing - also both were made for 27" wheels but will fit 700C with the right brakes. I've fit 130mm hubs in the Miyata with only minor effort. 

Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on April 15, 2013 at 8:41am

yeah - 4mm is only 2mm on each side. In such cases, with a steel frame one can usually spread the stays enough when mounting the wheel that spreading the frame (permanently) isn't necessary.

Alex said:

Frames are both 126mm spacing - also both were made for 27" wheels but will fit 700C with the right brakes. I've fit 130mm hubs in the Miyata with only minor effort. 

Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on April 15, 2013 at 8:45am

If you don't mind the decreased bearing lifespan in an axle that is thwanked and unevenly side-loaded when tightened down between crooked/splayed dropouts or the chunk/clunk/chunk bad shifting of a derailleur hanger that slightly misaligned, I suppose. 

Permalink Reply by Alex on April 17, 2013 at 4:16am

Miyata sold, Bstone still for sale/trade.

Permalink Reply by Alex on May 11, 2013 at 10:30am

One last crack at this. Help me avoid having to pack and ship this thing. Give her a good home. $70 bucks, for real.