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Permalink Reply by ciarliera on October 7, 2012 at 11:35am

k  downloaded the pdf and got the dead link off. I'll work on putting some bullet points in.

Permalink Reply by Bliss BT on October 7, 2012 at 1:08pm

I took a jab at a quarter size flyer.  I didn't realize you guys were already on it.  Here are a few if anyone is interested.  If not, it was still a decent way to spend a couple of hours ;)  http://i.imgur.com/S19lU.jpg

Permalink Reply by Ash L. on October 7, 2012 at 1:23pm

I love the first one, Bliss!

Permalink Reply by ciarliera on October 7, 2012 at 1:50pm

Okay, here is a first draft. Let me know what you guys think. Also I found this post from 2008 by those who first designed the sticker we are modifying: http://www.hipsternascar.com/2008/06/chicago-cyclist-killed-after-b...

I've sent the blogger a message regarding our plans and asked for permission to use the image and invited them to get involved.

I was also thinking that we might want to reach out to the individual who caused this accident by opening his door and include him in this memorial and effort to raise awareness. Goodness knows he did not intend for this to happen and from what I have read in various reports he seemed shaken by the accident. I think it would make our message much stronger, might garner media attention, and would offer support to this fellow who is also a victim of the poor infrastructure of our streets. Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by Zoetrope on October 7, 2012 at 1:51pm

Impressive!  Thanks. 

Bliss BT said:

I took a jab at a quarter size flyer.  I didn't realize you guys were already on it.  Here are a few if anyone is interested.  If not, it was still a decent way to spend a couple of hours ;)  http://i.imgur.com/S19lU.jpg

Permalink Reply by Ash L. on October 7, 2012 at 2:02pm

As well intentioned as this seems, we don't want to do anything that will make Neill's friends or family feel uncomfortable about attending the memorial. I know if I lost someone I loved, I would not be ready to confront the person that took their life a mere week after. Whether the family ever approaches this person should be at their discretion, not ours. 

Kristy Lapidus said:

I was also thinking that we might want to reach out to the individual who caused this accident by opening his door and include him in this memorial and effort to raise awareness. Goodness knows he did not intend for this to happen and from what I have read in various reports he seemed shaken by the accident. I think it would make our message much stronger, might garner media attention, and would offer support to this fellow who is also a victim of the poor infrastructure of our streets. Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by ciarliera on October 7, 2012 at 2:06pm

Deleted old file and uploaded one with new edits, see attached.

Attachments:

• antidooring.pdf, 166 KB

Permalink Reply by ciarliera on October 7, 2012 at 2:08pm

nice! I really like A. We could print more than one flyer.

Zoetrope said:

Impressive!  Thanks. 

Bliss BT said:

I took a jab at a quarter size flyer.  I didn't realize you guys were already on it.  Here are a few if anyone is interested.  If not, it was still a decent way to spend a couple of hours ;)  http://i.imgur.com/S19lU.jpg

Permalink Reply by Lisa Curcio on October 7, 2012 at 2:15pm

Kristy, very nice, but it says "client" instead of "Clint".

Permalink Reply by ciarliera on October 7, 2012 at 2:23pm

oh, dear. Thanks, Lisa. Fixed with this attachment. h' does this work for you?

Lisa Curcio said:

Kristy, very nice, but it says "client" instead of "Clint".

Attachments:

• antidooring.pdf, 164 KB

Permalink Reply by Duppie on October 7, 2012 at 2:31pm

That, and if I was the driver, I would feel very uncomfortable facing a number of cyclists honoring the person that got killed due to my fault, despite their assurances that this would not be a trial. I definitely would not attend.

Ash L. said:

As well intentioned as this seems, we don't want to do anything that will make Neill's friends or family feel uncomfortable about attending the memorial. I know if I lost someone I loved, I would not be ready to confront the person that took their life a mere week after. Whether the family ever approaches this person should be at their discretion, not ours. 

Kristy Lapidus said:

I was also thinking that we might want to reach out to the individual who caused this accident by opening his door and include him in this memorial and effort to raise awareness. Goodness knows he did not intend for this to happen and from what I have read in various reports he seemed shaken by the accident. I think it would make our message much stronger, might garner media attention, and would offer support to this fellow who is also a victim of the poor infrastructure of our streets. Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by Melissa M on October 7, 2012 at 2:32pm

FWIW, I prefer Bliss's A design to the "Someone opened a door and killed my friend", especially as the main design for a campaign. For me, the friend one is...well, disingenuous for those of us who do not have a friend who was killed in a crash due do dooring. It may seem like a little thing, but- given the antipathy that many drivers feel for cyclists- I think that statement could be dismissed as an attempt at emotional manipulation, especially if that's the only thing they see everywhere. I like the idea of having more than one flyer, and it would only require small change to offer two- keep the language the same and just change the graphic. Anyway, that's my two cents on it.

Also, just in case people question the actual law about dooring. It was mentioned in the other discussion that it is from the Illinois Vehicle Code, Chapter 11, Article 14, Section 7 (aka 625 ILCS 5/11-1407). You can find the whole code here http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ChapterID=49&Act....

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