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Permalink Reply by Haddon on September 12, 2014 at 6:44am

1 Long Sleeve shirt

2 Thermals + shorts (very comfortable)

3 Mittens

4 Sweatshirt

5 Turtle Fur neck muff

6 Hat

7 Jacket

8 Crying into my pillow, But I would rather not think about this at all.

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Permalink Reply by Alex Z on September 12, 2014 at 6:56am

Underwear

Shorts

Shirt

Pants

Long-sleeve shirt

Jacket

Gloves

Scarf

Extra shirt

Balaclava

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Permalink Reply by Mike Zumwalt on September 12, 2014 at 7:02am

Well this "summer" had me carrying a light hoodie or long sleeve shirt just in case.

I wore shorts until the past couple days.

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Permalink Reply by Gene Tenner on September 13, 2014 at 3:15am

My core (abdomen) and head are my top prioriities. I keep a chart which makes adjustments to sudden weather changes a snap. The phrases here may mean little to others, but you get the idea; keep track of what you wear:

Bicycle Clothing Chart
Temp.	Balaclava	T	Jacket	Pants	Sox	Shoes	Mittens
65+		(T)		Shorts		Sandals
60 to 65	Green	(T)		Shorts	Ankle	Sandals
55 to 59	Green	1	Wndbrker	Quick-Dry	Light	Brown	(Garden gloves)
50 to 54	Green	1	Lt. Grn	Quick-Dry	Light	Brown	(Garden gloves)
45 to 49	Black	1	Lt. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex	Brown	eGloves 0
40 to 44	Cap/Black	1	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex	Brown	eGloves 0
35 to 39	Cap/Black	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Black	eGloves 1
30 to 34	Cap/Black	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Black	eGloves 1
25 to 29	Lt.+ Heavy	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD/H-Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves 2
20 to 24	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Drk. Grn	QD/H-Wick	2/G-tex/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves 2
15 to 19	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Blue	Ski/Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves1/Gtx Shell
10 to 14	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Blue	Ski/Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves1/Gtx Shell
5 to 9	Grn/Lt/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski+H-Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves2/Gtx Shell
0 to 4	Grn/Lt/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski+H-Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves2/Gtx Shell
m1 to m5	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	2/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves3/Gtx Shell
m6 to m10	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	2/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves3/Gtx Shell
m11 - m15	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/H	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	3/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves4/Gtx Shell
m16 to m20	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/H	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	3/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves4/Gtx Shell

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Permalink Reply by mike w. on September 13, 2014 at 3:45am

i was always advised that under ~65deg to keep the knees warm to protect the joints, so i use the heck out of my leg warmers. they can easily be rolled up and stashed in my seat bag when it warms up. When my legs get chilled, my already slow pace drops even slower.

Yesterday AM it was a light long sleeve jersey under a long sleeve wool jersey, full tights, wool socks, and lightweight long-finger gloves. On the PM it was the just the wool jersey, rain jacket, and tights for outer wear.

The sudden change was a bit of a shock, but remember that in a just few weeks, 50deg will feel balmy. i will adjust accordingly. YMMV

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Permalink Reply by grayn8 on September 13, 2014 at 5:47am

Gene! Your photos are always a joy, but this chart just made my day. My wife is doing the Olympic distance triathlon in litchfield tomorrow. The lakes temp is 76, but the air temp when she hits the bike is probably going to be around 45 F. She said I don't know what to wear. Usually this question completely stumps me, but this time I said quite boldly this is what gene would wear!


Gene Tenner said:

My core (abdomen) and head are my top prioriities. I keep a chart which makes adjustments to sudden weather changes a snap. The phrases here may mean little to others, but you get the idea; keep track of what you wear:

Bicycle Clothing Chart
Temp.	Balaclava	T	Jacket	Pants	Sox	Shoes	Mittens
65+		(T)		Shorts		Sandals
60 to 65	Green	(T)		Shorts	Ankle	Sandals
55 to 59	Green	1	Wndbrker	Quick-Dry	Light	Brown	(Garden gloves)
50 to 54	Green	1	Lt. Grn	Quick-Dry	Light	Brown	(Garden gloves)
45 to 49	Black	1	Lt. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex	Brown	eGloves 0
40 to 44	Cap/Black	1	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex	Brown	eGloves 0
35 to 39	Cap/Black	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Black	eGloves 1
30 to 34	Cap/Black	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Black	eGloves 1
25 to 29	Lt.+ Heavy	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD/H-Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves 2
20 to 24	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Drk. Grn	QD/H-Wick	2/G-tex/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves 2
15 to 19	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Blue	Ski/Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves1/Gtx Shell
10 to 14	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Blue	Ski/Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves1/Gtx Shell
5 to 9	Grn/Lt/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski+H-Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves2/Gtx Shell
0 to 4	Grn/Lt/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski+H-Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves2/Gtx Shell
m1 to m5	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	2/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves3/Gtx Shell
m6 to m10	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	2/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves3/Gtx Shell
m11 - m15	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/H	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	3/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves4/Gtx Shell
m16 to m20	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/H	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	3/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves4/Gtx Shell

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Permalink Reply by Gene Tenner on September 13, 2014 at 7:18am

Gee whiz. Happy to help.

At 45 degrees I woud wear a light balaclava over a light knit cap, a goretex jacket over a long-sleeve wicking undershirt, lose-fitting quick-dry pants over light tights, heavy smartwool socks or goretex socks over medium socks, smartwool mittens that do not allow a lot of air onto the skin and any kind of comfortable shoes that work with your pedals .... and a helmet.

Thank you for the kind words on the photos.

grayn8 (5.3 - 36) said:

Gene! Your photos are always a joy, but this chart just made my day. My wife is doing the Olympic distance triathlon in litchfield tomorrow. The lakes temp is 76, but the air temp when she hits the bike is probably going to be around 45 F. She said I don't know what to wear. Usually this question completely stumps me, but this time I said quite boldly this is what gene would wear!

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Permalink Reply by S on September 13, 2014 at 10:44am

 The biggest comfort would be to make sure she gets pretty dry and to have a windblocking layer over her tri-suit.  Wet tri-suit plus lots of airflow is going chill her pretty quickly if it's exposed. 

grayn8 (5.3 - 36) said:

Gene! Your photos are always a joy, but this chart just made my day. My wife is doing the Olympic distance triathlon in litchfield tomorrow. The lakes temp is 76, but the air temp when she hits the bike is probably going to be around 45 F. She said I don't know what to wear. Usually this question completely stumps me, but this time I said quite boldly this is what gene would wear!


Gene Tenner said:

My core (abdomen) and head are my top prioriities. I keep a chart which makes adjustments to sudden weather changes a snap. The phrases here may mean little to others, but you get the idea; keep track of what you wear:

Bicycle Clothing Chart
Temp.	Balaclava	T	Jacket	Pants	Sox	Shoes	Mittens
65+		(T)		Shorts		Sandals
60 to 65	Green	(T)		Shorts	Ankle	Sandals
55 to 59	Green	1	Wndbrker	Quick-Dry	Light	Brown	(Garden gloves)
50 to 54	Green	1	Lt. Grn	Quick-Dry	Light	Brown	(Garden gloves)
45 to 49	Black	1	Lt. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex	Brown	eGloves 0
40 to 44	Cap/Black	1	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex	Brown	eGloves 0
35 to 39	Cap/Black	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Black	eGloves 1
30 to 34	Cap/Black	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD+ Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Black	eGloves 1
25 to 29	Lt.+ Heavy	L/L	Drk. Grn	QD/H-Wick	H/G-tex/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves 2
20 to 24	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Drk. Grn	QD/H-Wick	2/G-tex/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves 2
15 to 19	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Blue	Ski/Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves1/Gtx Shell
10 to 14	Lt.+ Heavy	L/M	Blue	Ski/Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves1/Gtx Shell
5 to 9	Grn/Lt/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski+H-Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves2/Gtx Shell
0 to 4	Grn/Lt/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski+H-Wick	1/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves2/Gtx Shell
m1 to m5	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	2/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves3/Gtx Shell
m6 to m10	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/M	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	2/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves3/Gtx Shell
m11 - m15	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/H	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	3/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves4/Gtx Shell
m16 to m20	Gr/Cp/Hvy	L/M/H	Blue/Liner	Ski/L/H-Wick	3/Gtx/Felt/eSoles	Slippers	eGloves4/Gtx Shell

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Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on September 13, 2014 at 1:06pm

Was out for a quick 50 on Thursday and it was a bit of a shock to my system how cold it was.  I left at 8:30AM and figured it was just a morning chill and it would warm up after an hour or so.  3-1/2 hours later I was home and it felt like it was even colder than when I left. 

I put on my Pearl-Izumi barrier jacket before I even left the back porch, and within 5 miles I was pulling my thermasilk glove liners out to put on under my Spenco fingerless gloves.  I wished I had brought some ear warmers as they were pretty chilled, and my knees were killing me with arthritis when I got home and off the bike. I hadn't noticed it while spinning but as soon as I got off the bike to walk into the house and down the stairs to my garden unit I felt like I was 92 years old.  From now on the knee-warmers are getting packed in my handlebar bag or maybe just worn from the start.   I had thought about stopping a few times along the route to put my foot-warmers on over my shoes, but my feet were only mildly cold so I didn't. 

A few more weeks like this and it'll be back to the trainer inside for me.  I'll go back outside when it gets above 50 again.  This cold crap is for the birds. 

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Permalink Reply by Josh L. on September 13, 2014 at 5:03pm

I can't believe Friday night I wore my winter biking shirt and jacket home along the lakefront. In mid September!  This is ominous for this winter.

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Permalink Reply by Reboot Oxnard on September 14, 2014 at 1:26am

Shirt, windbreaker, wicking underwear, pants, gloves, balaclava, parked. I'm a wuss, when it gets cold enough that a heated vest is in order, I usually go for Plan B.

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Permalink Reply by David Beazley on September 14, 2014 at 3:37am

Don't think of the chill as a sign of winter. It just means we're nearing the Boss Level of the 2014 biking year.

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