Freeze proof water hose prevention ideas - (camelback/platypus,etc.)

Any ideas? This is a huge bummer on the super cold days.

My first attempt will be to take half inch foam pipe insulator and cut it into little pieces that will allow the hose to bend easily. Might work. Maybe? Hmmm...

Anyone have any less silly solutions to this tragic winter problem?

Cheers - Lee

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Permalink Reply by Ian on December 16, 2009 at 1:18pm
Lee,
Kevin is absolutely wrong in his advice - he has the ratio backwards, and I am thinking of looking into trying to distill whiskey with electrolytes. Until then, is there some powder e.g. gatorade/zym... you can use that has enough salt or other agent which will significantly lower the freezing point without compromising the benefits/quenching?
Permalink Reply by S on December 20, 2009 at 3:15pm

Just saw this and thought it might be a possible solution. The water hose is designed to run along your arm so you can have the bite valve sticking out from under your sleeve. That'll probably be just as effective as an insulating tube. It's a little expensive though.

Permalink Reply by Reddog (Cliff) on December 20, 2009 at 5:27pm
Like others have noted, simply blowing back into the tube goes a long way towards keeping the hose free from Ice.
Permalink Reply by Lee Diamond on December 21, 2009 at 5:16am
Blowing into the tube fills the bladder with air very quickly, so this has not been a great idea. Perhaps I am overblowing, but the nature of the tube is that it keeps water in it unless you really blow it back. The result is that after three drinks of water and blowing it back in the bag, I have to stop and release the air or else I would not be able to do another blow into the bag.

I should invest in an insulated sleeve and be done with it. Cheers for all the help.

Reddog said:
Like others have noted, simply blowing back into the tube goes a long way towards keeping the hose free from Ice.
Permalink Reply by chixieonfixie on December 22, 2009 at 2:46am
emphasis on *can* but usually does not, right?

Interesting article, but it sounds like the "controlled" experiments reproducing the effect carefully alter the mass, gas, convection currents, or environment around the container.

I will admit, however, if anyone can achieve these unlikely circumstances, it is probably a Chainlinker!

Lionel Senderowicz said:
(Puts on nerd goggles)
Against one's intuition, warm water can freeze faster than cold water. It has to do with the Mpemba effect: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html

On cold days like this, with less sweat, I tend to get less thirsty too so it's not a huge concern (and I commute 1-1.5hrs each way). Days where water becomes solid in a short period of time are rare, so even if i do get thirsty, i'll be able to sift through the ice pieces before I reach my destination.
Permalink Reply by Mike Schwab on December 23, 2009 at 3:43pm
How about a Stainless steel vacuum bottle?
http://www.bicyclecoffeesystems.com/ with or without flavoring or caffeine.
Permalink Reply by Amber K on January 8, 2010 at 4:34am
Ok, Lee I finally tried it out. It works great except I looked like a hunchback, but I don't really care. The bladder does make the water taste bad. I washed it out good before I went out and still tasted bad. When I got home I rinsed it out with some bleach water. It seems to have taken the taste out, but I haven't tried it yet. I will be trying it out again tomorrow.



Amber K said:
Lee Diamond said:
That's what I need! Please let me know how you like it and how that part works in particular once you try it on a pretty chilly day if you don't mind.
Cheers! - Lee


I definitely will. Maybe this will give me a reason to get off my lazy butt and out the door!

Permalink Reply by Michael A on January 8, 2010 at 4:42am
I am not sure how this would work for a bladder, but using a denture cleaning tablet takes out the bad taste in water bottles. just fill it up 3/4 of the way pop in a half tablet and then rinse it well.

Amber K said:
Ok, Lee I finally tried it out. It works great except I looked like a hunchback, but I don't really care. The bladder does make the water taste bad. I washed it out good before I went out and still tasted bad. When I got home I rinsed it out with some bleach water. It seems to have taken the taste out, but I haven't tried it yet. I will be trying it out again tomorrow.



Amber K said:
Lee Diamond said:
That's what I need! Please let me know how you like it and how that part works in particular once you try it on a pretty chilly day if you don't mind.
Cheers! - Lee


I definitely will. Maybe this will give me a reason to get off my lazy butt and out the door!

Permalink Reply by Amber K on January 8, 2010 at 4:52am
I did not know that. Thanks. I may try that if all else fells.

Michael A said:
I am not sure how this would work for a bladder, but using a denture cleaning tablet takes out the bad taste in water bottles. just fill it up 3/4 of the way pop in a half tablet and then rinse it well.

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