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Permalink Reply by Josh L. on June 11, 2014 at 12:09am

In general supplements are very ineffective.  For  reasons not completely understood, the body seems unable to  process vitamins/minerals/proteins in high adulterated forms. So for example despite what years of advertising have told us, clinical research sees little to no benefit from daily vitamins. In fact, some studies show a negative impact.

I  can't speak to this particular offer but my sense is that all these protein building supplements are a scam. They typically play on male insecurities. To wit, this ad claims you will "crush fat" by taking it. There is no way to "crush fat" with a supplement. Fat is reduced when you have a calorie deficit.  

I will leave it to your good judgement whether a supplement can "increase confidence" and "generate energy."

My recommendation for long rides is that you build up to them.  Do 20, 30, 40 miles.  You will increase strength and endurance.  That's the more natural, science based way to increase performance.

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Permalink Reply by Simon Phearson on June 11, 2014 at 2:51am

You don't suppose this is just spam, do you?

jolondon30 said:

In general supplements are very ineffective.  For  reasons not completely understood, the body seems unable to  process vitamins/minerals/proteins in high adulterated forms. So for example despite what years of advertising have told us, clinical research sees little to no benefit from daily vitamins. In fact, some studies show a negative impact.

I  can't speak to this particular offer but my sense is that all these protein building supplements are a scam. They typically play on male insecurities. To wit, this ad claims you will "crush fat" by taking it. There is no way to "crush fat" with a supplement. Fat is reduced when you have a calorie deficit.  

I will leave it to your good judgement whether a supplement can "increase confidence" and "generate energy."

My recommendation for long rides is that you build up to them.  Do 20, 30, 40 miles.  You will increase strength and endurance.  That's the more natural, science based way to increase performance.

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Permalink Reply by Josh L. on June 11, 2014 at 3:10am

Nice catch.  The link points right to a sign up form page.  Naively didn't expect spammers to target chainlink.  Regardless, at least my point got out and those folks who waste money with these things will be wiser and sales will slump.
Simon Phearson said:

You don't suppose this is just spam, do you?

jolondon30 said:

In general supplements are very ineffective.  For  reasons not completely understood, the body seems unable to  process vitamins/minerals/proteins in high adulterated forms. So for example despite what years of advertising have told us, clinical research sees little to no benefit from daily vitamins. In fact, some studies show a negative impact.

I  can't speak to this particular offer but my sense is that all these protein building supplements are a scam. They typically play on male insecurities. To wit, this ad claims you will "crush fat" by taking it. There is no way to "crush fat" with a supplement. Fat is reduced when you have a calorie deficit.  

I will leave it to your good judgement whether a supplement can "increase confidence" and "generate energy."

My recommendation for long rides is that you build up to them.  Do 20, 30, 40 miles.  You will increase strength and endurance.  That's the more natural, science based way to increase performance.

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Permalink Reply by Simon Phearson on June 11, 2014 at 3:44am

Oh, sure. I agree with you on the supplement point, and I think it's good to append that point to a spam post for supplements.

jolondon30 said:

Nice catch.  The link points right to a sign up form page.  Naively didn't expect spammers to target chainlink.  Regardless, at least my point got out and those folks who waste money with these things will be wiser and sales will slump.
Simon Phearson said:

You don't suppose this is just spam, do you?

jolondon30 said:

In general supplements are very ineffective.  For  reasons not completely understood, the body seems unable to  process vitamins/minerals/proteins in high adulterated forms. So for example despite what years of advertising have told us, clinical research sees little to no benefit from daily vitamins. In fact, some studies show a negative impact.

I  can't speak to this particular offer but my sense is that all these protein building supplements are a scam. They typically play on male insecurities. To wit, this ad claims you will "crush fat" by taking it. There is no way to "crush fat" with a supplement. Fat is reduced when you have a calorie deficit.  

I will leave it to your good judgement whether a supplement can "increase confidence" and "generate energy."

My recommendation for long rides is that you build up to them.  Do 20, 30, 40 miles.  You will increase strength and endurance.  That's the more natural, science based way to increase performance.

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Permalink Reply by Tominator on June 11, 2014 at 8:40am

I have found createnine (liquid) and HMB (powder in capsules) to be highly effective on long, multi-day rides. (Or back to back long runs, say a half marathon on a saturday and same on sunday.) 

Gets ride of the "rubber legs" feeling on day 2 through xxx of a long ride. Still, your point is well taken and you can never eliminate the placebo effect. Still, I turned some other riders on to it and they thought it really helped them as well. One guy said his arthritis pain went away.

jolondon30 said:

In general supplements are very ineffective.  For  reasons not completely understood, the body seems unable to  process vitamins/minerals/proteins in high adulterated forms. So for example despite what years of advertising have told us, clinical research sees little to no benefit from daily vitamins. In fact, some studies show a negative impact.

I  can't speak to this particular offer but my sense is that all these protein building supplements are a scam. They typically play on male insecurities. To wit, this ad claims you will "crush fat" by taking it. There is no way to "crush fat" with a supplement. Fat is reduced when you have a calorie deficit.  

I will leave it to your good judgement whether a supplement can "increase confidence" and "generate energy."

My recommendation for long rides is that you build up to them.  Do 20, 30, 40 miles.  You will increase strength and endurance.  That's the more natural, science based way to increase performance.

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