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Permalink Reply by Bike Bloke on September 23, 2011 at 6:09am

What happens when there are multiple cyclists going straight ahead and cars wanting to turn right? Much as I'd like to, I can't see Chicago drivers buying this one. I think those boxes (advanced stop lines?) for bikes at the head of red light lines are better. Hard for drivers to buy too, but perhaps an easier sell.

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Permalink Reply by Joel on September 23, 2011 at 6:11am

What happens no when multiple cyclists are going straight and a car wants to turn?  Either the car cuts them off (illegal) or waits.  The bikes going straight in their lane already have the right of way, this just makes it harder for drivers to give us the blind right hook.

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Permalink Reply by Ash L. on September 23, 2011 at 7:43am

I like some thing about this design but I doubt that most cyclists would want to do a full box turn to make a left. I tend to box turn at 6 point intersections with the crosswalk signal but at standard intersections I prefer to merge left and turn on the right side of the left turning vehicle.

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Permalink Reply by Jason W on September 23, 2011 at 8:02am

I like it! Thanks for posting Joel.

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Permalink Reply by prof.gfr on September 23, 2011 at 8:37am

This looks terrific. Does anyone with an inside track to the people at CDOT and especially Gabe Klein? They should see this.

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Permalink Reply by Joel on September 23, 2011 at 8:42am

I make almost all left turns like you describe, so it would be a change.  But, I might be willing to trade slightly slower left turns (you almost always have to wait until the end of a light cycle now anyway) for improved safety at intersections.  Having physical curbs to stop the right and left hooks would be really nice.  

Ash L. said:

I like some thing about this design but I doubt that most cyclists would want to do a full box turn to make a left. I tend to box turn at 6 point intersections with the crosswalk signal but at standard intersections I prefer to merge left and turn on the right side of the left turning vehicle.

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