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What if Chicago looked like this? What if this could be the perfect City? What if there were no cars? Would we still have a beef?




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Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on May 19, 2010 at 8:00am
It seems like Chicago cyclists already overwhelmingly identify other cyclists as their main "beef" when polled, so I dare say yes, many or most would still have a beef.

Curious though-- I first saw this posted here on May 10:
http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycle-rush-hour-in-the

and then after a slow burn it hit a few of the lists-- wondering where you saw it? I suspect wherever you did, it was posted by someone who indirectly was made aware of it here in the first place.
Permalink Reply by Andrew Bedno on May 19, 2010 at 8:08am
So beautiful, I cried a little. Saw this last night on a "BarCast" screen.
Permalink Reply by Jared on May 19, 2010 at 8:32am
I think I've seen this on facebook and someone just posted it on an urban planning message board I frequent. It's been getting around.
Permalink Reply by Julie Aberman (Hochstadter) on May 19, 2010 at 8:50am
wow.
Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on May 19, 2010 at 10:26am
People sure walk funny over there.

2. I can't wait to ride in that helmet-less paradise!
Permalink Reply by heather s on May 19, 2010 at 11:09am
I've seen this posted to a bunch of different blogs, some not cycling-related and not Chicago-based. I doubt the chainlink is ground zero.

When I was watching it I noticed that people weren't following much of the 'etiquette' protocol that I sometimes complain about. Check out the guy who jumps the curb so that he can get at the front of the queue! He would have gotten the snake eye from me. And where are the hand signals?! Unless there was a general calming- and slowing-down of cycling in Chicago, I bet plenty of people would have beef.
This makes me wonder how I would behave as a cyclist if I was visiting Utrecht. It looks so lovely on video, but part of me feels claustrophobic just watching it -- I can feel myself wanting to pass all of those people and not being able to get by.

Maybe because there are so many people sharing a rather small and confined space, the ride can't really be a race for everyone. It couldn't be practical to have a fit every time someone passes you (or to call out when you're passing someone) when there are so many cyclists. Maybe they rely on eye contact and have little dingy bells or something. Maybe it's just that cycling is so established in every demographic that no one feels the need to prove themselves every time they're on the road.



H3N3 said:
It seems like Chicago cyclists already overwhelmingly identify other cyclists as their main "beef" when polled, so I dare say yes, many or most would still have a beef.

Curious though-- I first saw this posted here on May 10:
http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycle-rush-hour-in-the

and then after a slow burn it hit a few of the lists-- wondering where you saw it? I suspect wherever you did, it was posted by someone who indirectly was made aware of it here in the first place.
Permalink Reply by Michael Perz on May 19, 2010 at 11:31am
That looks mind-numbingly utilitarian.
Permalink Reply by Kevin Mulcky on May 19, 2010 at 11:59am
You think that the PETA propaganda is sickening? Fast food corporations spent $100 billion in advertising in the United States last year. How does that make you feel? hungry?

Adriana said:

This is the reason why I will never become a vegan/vegetarian...the shoving of propaganda down my throat is sickening.
Permalink Reply by Michael Perz on May 19, 2010 at 12:16pm
In my idyllic vision for a perfect world, commuting would look a bit more like this...

Permalink Reply by Tony Adams on May 19, 2010 at 12:28pm
Adriana said:
This is the reason why I will never become a vegan/vegetarian...the shoving of propaganda down my throat is sickening.

This has to be the most weak reasoning I've ever seen on the chainlink - and we've all seen plenty of weak reasoning here. To make a moral choice because you don't approve of the tactics of a tiny subset of the people who hold a particular position? That is just senseless.

Have you seen the propaganda of the anti-abortion fanatics? Does it drive you to have abortions? Would genocide be ok if the depictions of death camps by those who oppose genocide were gruesome enough?
Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on May 19, 2010 at 12:32pm
I completely agree with Tony.
It's a typical right wing/fascist tack to competely discredit any and all environmental causes on the basis of a particular cherry-picked tactic of one cherry-picked proponent.


Tony Adams said:
Adriana said:
This is the reason why I will never become a vegan/vegetarian...the shoving of propaganda down my throat is sickening.

This has to be the most weak reasoning I've ever seen on the chainlink - and we've all seen plenty of weak reasoning here. To make a moral choice because you don't approve of the tactics of a tiny subset of the people who hold a particular position? That is just senseless.

Have you seen the propaganda of the anti-abortion fanatics? Does it drive you to have abortions?
Permalink Reply by Craig S. on May 19, 2010 at 8:15pm
Geez, Tony, talk about weak. Right away go for the jugular and bring up genocide and gluttony through the fast food industry and whether someone is a vegetarian or not. Is it really a "moral" issue for everyone? It ain't for me, I love dead animal products!

Bring up the abortion debate too, why not. Do you know anything about Adriana? Perhaps you should get to know a person and what they've been through before you blithely bring up such ridiculous retorts like the abortion debate to someone expressing their opinion in an off the wall way.

I also can't believe Howard labeled her a fascist. I'm one to make complete snap judgements and cast labels but even I wouldn't stoop as far as you two. I thought it was okay to express opinions around here. Perhaps I'm wrong?

Personally, this video drives me nuts and it's far from a cyclists utopia. I wonder what this makes me.

Tony Adams said:
Adriana said:
This is the reason why I will never become a vegan/vegetarian...the shoving of propaganda down my throat is sickening.

This has to be the most weak reasoning I've ever seen on the chainlink - and we've all seen plenty of weak reasoning here. To make a moral choice because you don't approve of the tactics of a tiny subset of the people who hold a particular position? That is just senseless.

Have you seen the propaganda of the anti-abortion fanatics? Does it drive you to have abortions? Would genocide be ok if the depictions of death camps by those who oppose genocide were gruesome enough?

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