Do we need designated bike 'security' at events like last night's?
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Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on
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The OnGuard Brute long shackle is under $50 with shipping on Amazon.
The OnGuard Brute Regular shackle is just a buck or so less.
Neither is very available locally at LBS's -they usually only carry the pitbull and the bulldog lower-end locks from OnGuard.
Both locks are very heavy 4.9lbs and 5.2lbs respectively. You save .3 lbs with the shorter shackle but the reach difference is nice sometimes with certain locking situations with that long shackle.
Even with two locks that weigh 10lbs together someone could still cut through both of them in a few minutes so no bike is safe. With these two locks it is easier to cut the rack or a pole (seconds to unbolt a sign)
But it is 100x better than using a cable or a single lock without even hitting a wheel so a bike can be ridden away after cutting a rack or lifting a pole.
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Permalink Reply by Craig S. on
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Again, the Bike Registry chain is a third the cost of a Krypto chain. I have one, it's awesome.
http://www.bikeregistry.com/estore/product_info.php?products_id=54&...
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Permalink Reply by nik was here on
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Ride your bicycle everywhere said:And your preferred/suggest locking method would be?
I do this:
I have a bolt on front. Unlocked. Not overly concerned.
And with this:
You should at least be able to get the pole side chainstay inside that lock protecting the frame as well.
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Good locking for the rear -and the U is busy enough to resist a bottle-jack attack. It just wouldn't fit into that area without crushing the frame and wheel.
nik was here said:
Ride your bicycle everywhere said:And your preferred/suggest locking method would be?
I do this:
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Permalink Reply by Julie Aberman (Hochstadter) on
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Didn't a bunch of wheels get stolen at a bike event last year? I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to have people take turns at an evening event where there are lots of bikes locked up.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Zumwalt on
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The event could also be made less viewable to the public, you don't even need to log in to know where alot of unattended bikes will be.
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Could it have been this same after-mass event? I saw a lot of bikes locked in a small area with too few good locking options. Usually mass tends to break up afterwards and not really become a "destination" ride like this. Maybe when this happens in the future some sort of ad-hock grass-roots security is a good idea if it isn't possible to get more temporary bike parking.
I saw many juicy targets for theft before I left and had a bad feeling that something was going to go missing.
Julie Hochstadter said:Didn't a bunch of wheels get stolen at a bike event last year? I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to have people take turns at an evening event where there are lots of bikes locked up.
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Permalink Reply by Fran Kondorf on
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'Juicy Targets' would be a great band name.
James BlackHeron said;I saw many juicy targets for theft before I left and had a bad feeling that something was going to go missing.
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More bikes, not locked as well, all in the same area.
What's not to like and seek out?
As far as "locking the website" is concerned the CCM website is not affiliated with CCM. CCM is leaderless and has no official sponsors or organnizers. It is spontanius community activism and cohesion. But there is no one site or person that can be pointed to as representing the "movement" per se and no way to make it "locked" so only bicyclists can view events.
And how would that even be possible or, if so, a good thing? Anything that makes it harder to view what is going on will only reduce over-all participation. I'm sure that the Establishment would LOVE that.
The solution is better education about locking bikes and self-security within the community. We need to either make that happen or accept that we are going to be selected as the juicy targets we are.
I've made a resolution to never go out, even for a short pleasure ride, without two high-end U-locks and always use them both. I refuse to be a juicy target any longer.
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The only thing I use a cable for these days is to lock up my trailer. U-locks just don't cut it, and the stupid thing comes apart into so many pieces it wouldn't do any good anyhow.
Cables are so easy to cut.
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Ah, the pitbull and the bulldog are baby locks. I only use the brute. And if they are still there trying to cut my two Brutes then they will discover the REAL brute.
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Permalink Reply by bk (aka: Dr. Mambohead) on
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The Buddha says all suffering comes from desire... Still?..
I am not sure that dude even HAD a soooper nice bike.
I would glady lay down this life to defend our bikes. S'ok!... I've had a good run!
Realizing this can be a vacuous buzz-word slung around with ease... Yet?... If not a cycling "Seal Team Six"?.. Just what other factors are acceptible to, and/or define, a "community"? That is... if it is not looking out for one-another? Then what exactly is a "community". Pinko talk. I know.
So nice to see the CPD, in farce I mean in force every single CCM... Sure we appreciate their service. Let's see... work a beat in Garfield Park... or ride CCM. That is a toughie.
Still... I see more cops at a single CCM than a week of rush hours on the Weisenheimer I-290... Or the entire month I worked a gig for Cease-Fire.
Priorities. Serve and protect.
The thing is? If they needed it? I'd have gave that jackass the blinky they stole.... But that is me... a wild-eyed radical.
The delicious irony of it all is not lost on me.
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