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I'm courious on what other sometimes drivers, most of the time cyclists think about this:

 

Ive dug out 2 spaces so far and that didnt bother me. What bothers me is the guy who didn't dig out his van for a week but when he finnaly did he marked his spot. Dibs only count the day or two after the storm, any longer and your a lazy ass

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I think the system is BS but I don't have a way of solving it. The problem lies in the scumbags and I refuse to be one of them. And if I move their stuff, it's pretty obvious who did it and there's no telling what they will do to my car. All it takes is one d-bag to throw everything off and then everyone else follows and those who refuse to are screwed. It's unfortunate that doing the right thing (not illegally marking your spot) screws you in the end.

 

Look at it from this angle:

If EVERYONE marked their space, you'd be able to park in front of your house and that's it. Because everywhere you went, there would be a car or a 'marker' in that space.

If NOBODY marked their space, we'd all have a place to park.

 

 


Becca said:

Kurt, this system would work great if everyone did that.  But there are plenty of people, as your example shows, who are total scumbags and will take a spot someone cleared even though they haven't cleared one themselves.  I'm really sorry someone put their stuff in the spot you cleared and claimed it.  My question is this:  If you think the dibs system is BS, why didn't you just move the items someone put there?  By "honoring" that lame person's claim on your spot, you're implicitly agreeing that there's reason behind the system.

 

I think of it as a courtesy thing.  If you clear the spot, you're entitled to it not being stolen by someone who hasn't done any shovelling.  But you can't just trust people to do the right thing, clearly.  It's like if you're standing in line for something and someone cuts you.  Is that fair?  Shouldn't they have to put in the same amount of time as everyone else?

Kurt Barclay said:

I think marking your spot is BS. Like others have said, if you put in the time to clear yours and I put in the time to clear mine, then we both have spots to park in even if I end up taking your spot.

 

The spot I dug out was currently being marked by someone else and the spot he marked, someone else shoveled out.

To quote Seinfeld (I think it's George, even) "We're trying to have a civilization here!" If we're going to have that in a city where parking isn't always optimal, shovel a spot. If you come home and there's not a spot for you, don't be angry at those who view the practice of "dibs" as a deplorable way that people display their lack of neighborly behavior and lame-ass community values.

 

You do what you can do and you hope that others will do the same. If they don't, why would you, a good person who cares about others, participate in their broke ass chair spot saving system? When you call "dibs" you just visibly told me (and your neighbors) what sort of individual you are.  

 

Also, don't use a perfectly good mid-century modern chair to save your spot! I saw one the other day and my furniture lovin', design sensibility was shook to the core. Forget the parking spot--that was a good chair! 

 

i can't disagree with that.  I'm annoyed at how lazy people are here in chicago.  I've shoveled out the building's sidewalk all the way and the handicapped ramp out to the street.  The other day I had to go out and help someone who lived in the building next door (city subsidized housing) who was stuck with their wheelchair as the people the city hires to to take care of the low-rent housing did a very poor job of shoveling the sidewalk cut-out to the street.  They shoveled a "snow-shovel-wide" path out to the street that was about 20".  Funny thing is that I've never seen a wheelchair that was only 20" wide.  Our sidewalk (private condo assn.) is totally clear but the other day I had some neighbor berate me for doing TOO GOOD of a job.  "Why are you doing so much work when it's going to melt in a few weeks anyhow?" they said to me as they were coming back from Redstar with their daily pack of cigarettes to their city-subsidized housing complex.  Seriously, someone actually said that for me.  I just don't understand the mentality of someone who just does nothing and waits for the city workers to come dig them out.  This city is seriously lazy and full of entitlement-mentality where someone else does everything for them and they sit and wait for it to happen.

 

Dig out your own darn parking spot when you need one and don't expect to "keep" it when you return.  And while you are at it dig out your sidewalk and the road cut-outs so those who can't walk on 2 legs can wheel themselves by for cry-yi-yi!

 

My friends from WI still laugh at me for moving in with the FIBs.

 

Davo said:

Im saying that people should dig their cars out within a coulple of days weither or not they intend to drive them. If everyone dug their spots out, there would be no justification to dibs.

Well said.

Holly said:

 

You do what you can do and you hope that others will do the same. If they don't, why would you, a good person who cares about others, participate in their broke ass chair spot saving system? When you call "dibs" you just visibly told me (and your neighbors) what sort of individual you are.  

 

I don't think anyone has mentioned the implied enforcement of dibs; that if you have the audacity to take someone's hard earned spot, that they will somehow damage your car. That's how this works right?

 

I find that idea disgusting and totally un-neighborly.

You should have taken the chair. If you have some moral aversion to that, think about the stuff that people leave out for the taking during warmer months. Obviously this individual doesn't care about this chair.

 

Also, don't use a perfectly good mid-century modern chair to save your spot! I saw one the other day and my furniture lovin', design sensibility was shook to the core. Forget the parking spot--that was a good chair! 

 

Anything left out in the middle of the street is fair game for taking, driving over, or throwing directly into the trash.

 

Didn't your parents teach you that anything left out in the middle of the street is going to get run over?  I learned that lesson at age 6 when my dad purposely rode over my bike that I left out in the middle of the driveway.  He did it right in front of me.  I had to wait until the next Christmas until I got a new bike.  Never again did I leave my stuff out...

You poor, unfortunate souls. Reading this discussion makes me glad I am still be able to hire a driver to park the Aston Martin inside during these tough economic times. The bill to heat the garage is a small fortune in itself.

That reminds me of Absolutely Fabulous when Edina fell on hard times and decided to get rid of her driver.  After multiple accidents and finally a drunk driving conviction she turns to Patsy and says, "I guess sacking the driver was a FALSE economy!"

 

LOL  I pine for good British Comedy!

Michael Perz said:

You poor, unfortunate souls. Reading this discussion makes me glad I am still be able to hire a driver to park the Aston Martin inside during these tough economic times. The bill to heat the garage is a small fortune in itself.
I couldn't take the Danish chair. I was riding my bicycle and I don't have a trailer. *and I really don't need another chair*

Davo said:
You should have taken the chair. If you have some moral aversion to that, think about the stuff that people leave out for the taking during warmer months. Obviously this individual doesn't care about this chair.

 

Also, don't use a perfectly good mid-century modern chair to save your spot! I saw one the other day and my furniture lovin', design sensibility was shook to the core. Forget the parking spot--that was a good chair! 

 

On a side note: What are your feelings on where to put the snow when you shovel out your car? At first I thought it was bad form to throw it back onto the street, but then I figured that as long as I am spreading it out over a greater area, that is ok.
I say there should be an annual tax to park on the street, no matter how residential and 'low demand' it is. That should encourage people to clear out the junk from their garages so that garages can be used for their original purpose.  I know, I know - that means plowing alleys becomes an issue. The added advantage though could be that people have no junk left in their garages with which to assert dibs :-)

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