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Permalink Reply by Thunder Snow on July 9, 2012 at 6:48am

There is no crime outside the Chicago city limits.  It's a fact.

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Permalink Reply by Liz on July 9, 2012 at 10:51am

I understand getting upset over a critical comment about the shop, but this sounds like a valid concern.  I know I would be reluctant to leave a bike in that situation.  Even with things visible in the window it only takes a few seconds for someone to silently ride off on an unlocked bike.  Growing up in the suburbs, there is less theft than the city, but it still happens.  

I'm glad you will be addressing it by putting some locks on the bikes and cameras in the area.

Molly Shough said:

So sorry to have offend any Chicagoans "h" .. I live in the city of Chicago and can personally attest that thieves tend to be more aggressive within the city limits, I've had two bikes stolen and everyone who knows anyone has had something stolen.. This is my personal bias as someone who works in Glen Ellen but lives in Chicago.

The last part of my post did get a little snarky but it's hard not to get a little upset when folks criticize your place of employment based on one visit without all the information. my sincere apologies.. 

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Permalink Reply by Peter Grimaldi on July 9, 2012 at 12:57pm

+1.. and who probably would never have to visit said LBS.

Chris C said:

So this will be implemented at the owner's expense to remedy a risk that has manifested itself only once in ten years because a bunch of people in Chicago are so outraged that such a condition could exist in a town they couldn't find on a friggin map.

 

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Permalink Reply by Molly Shough on July 9, 2012 at 2:32pm

Thanks Liz,

I get it, I really do.. It took me a couple times of "are you sure it's okay to leave my bike unlocked?" to feel comfortable with it. I guess I forgot about that as it was so long ago :)

I leave my bike out behind the shop all day long, which is a lot longer than the other bikes of course.. Coming from the city I wouldn't leave my bike unlocked or (free locked for that matter!) anywhere if I felt it would get nabbed.

I understand that crime and bike theft can happen anywhere but it tends to be more common in denser more populated areas where someone can see thousands of people daily without talking or knowing any of them which is hardly what I've experienced in G.E.

Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to try and clear the air.

Hopefully there's no lingering hard feelings for my knee jerk reaction response concerning these legit concerns of bike storage safety.

ms

Liz said:

I understand getting upset over a critical comment about the shop, but this sounds like a valid concern.  I know I would be reluctant to leave a bike in that situation.  Even with things visible in the window it only takes a few seconds for someone to silently ride off on an unlocked bike.  Growing up in the suburbs, there is less theft than the city, but it still happens.  

I'm glad you will be addressing it by putting some locks on the bikes and cameras in the area.

Molly Shough said:

So sorry to have offend any Chicagoans "h" .. I live in the city of Chicago and can personally attest that thieves tend to be more aggressive within the city limits, I've had two bikes stolen and everyone who knows anyone has had something stolen.. This is my personal bias as someone who works in Glen Ellen but lives in Chicago.

The last part of my post did get a little snarky but it's hard not to get a little upset when folks criticize your place of employment based on one visit without all the information. my sincere apologies.. 

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Permalink Reply by Thunder Snow on July 9, 2012 at 9:03pm

It's much easier to prevent bicycles from being stolen by locking them properly and keeping an eye on them, than it is to recover them after being stolen.  That's a fact.

The shock and dismay of many here, is the evident naiveté displayed by this bike shop in believing no one will ever steal their customers' unlocked bikes from out back.  Their customers' bikes....not theirs.  Many of us cringe when we watch a rider leave a bike unattended, unlocked, or perhaps barely locked with an easy to cut cable. The stolen bike registry is filled with sad tales, one after another, of bikes that disappeared when the rider took their eyes off their bike for just a moment, left them on a porch, in a gangway, in a yard, in a bike room, believing that no one would ever steal their bike.  But the thieves go on stealing.  And a bike shop should know better than that.  If they don't, how can they teach vigilance to their customers?

Further, the implication that Glen Ellyn is somehow too fancy and special a place to have any thieves living there (or even just passing through) just seems even more unbelieveable. 

 

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Permalink Reply by Molly Shough on July 10, 2012 at 7:45am

yes there was. I believe I said just that. I wasn't being sarcastic when writing that the bikes from now on would be locked and further security measures were to be put in place. I really don't see the need to attack each other anymore on this forum. Concern was expressed and we're taking actions to try to make people feel better about the situation. thanks.

h' said:

Have you read this thread through? There was no serious intent expressed to lock the bikes or install cameras.  Describing the concern expressed here as "outrage" is just shitty.

If you're going to be superior it helps to be right, too.

Chris C said:

So this will be implemented at the owner's expense to remedy a risk that has manifested itself only once in ten years because a bunch of people in Chicago are so outraged that such a condition could exist in a town they couldn't find on a friggin map.

 

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Permalink Reply by TehDoak on July 10, 2012 at 11:24am

Molly, 

As the starter of this thread, I'm very glad to hear that the bike shop will now be locking bikes back there.  I'll update the first post (if i can, if not maybe the mods can update it) that the shop heard my concerns, listened, and has taken action to correct it.  I know I'm just a city guy who will probably never visit your shop again, however, the fact that you guys are able to take a little criticism and be proactive in protecting your customers bikes speaks volumes of the quality of your shop

Thanks for listening!

TehDoak

Molly Shough said:

yes there was. I believe I said just that. I wasn't being sarcastic when writing that the bikes from now on would be locked and further security measures were to be put in place. I really don't see the need to attack each other anymore on this forum. Concern was expressed and we're taking actions to try to make people feel better about the situation. thanks.

h' said:

Have you read this thread through? There was no serious intent expressed to lock the bikes or install cameras.  Describing the concern expressed here as "outrage" is just shitty.

If you're going to be superior it helps to be right, too.

Chris C said:

So this will be implemented at the owner's expense to remedy a risk that has manifested itself only once in ten years because a bunch of people in Chicago are so outraged that such a condition could exist in a town they couldn't find on a friggin map.

 

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