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Share Your Thoughts for Dooring Education

Hi all,


A few of us are meeting on Sunday to discuss dooring education efforts. To help inform our discussion, I'd like to get your thoughts on efforts and worries. Please take this 7 question survey - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5J3CBZX.

We'd love for additional folks to join us on Sunday, too. Check out the event calendar for details.


Thanks,
Katie

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Permalink Reply by KatieP on October 17, 2012 at 4:24pm

Slightly revised one question to allow for greater clarity when answering question. Thanks to those who have responded.

Permalink Reply by Juan 2-3 or more mi. on October 17, 2012 at 4:39pm

From Chicago's Streets for Cycling map.

Permalink Reply by David Barish on October 17, 2012 at 5:10pm

I filled out the survey and saw Juan's post.  I did not list cyclists as needing education. That was a mistake.

Permalink Reply by Larry Mysz on October 17, 2012 at 10:07pm

These might be of use.

Here is a video that shows how far the door zone really extends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA-ZcYGT94&feature=plcp

 

I prefer to actually do that demonstration rather than use the video when I teach the LAB Smart Cycling classes.  The 13 ft the instructor mentions at the end of the video  is the distance from the curb.  That winds up being 5 to 6 feet from the side of a  parked vehicle.

 

Here is a video of the consequences of riding in the door zone ( very graphic, showing several actual doorings)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CudJvSbS2aY

 

 

 

 

Permalink Reply by April on October 18, 2012 at 3:31am

I just found this article on The Grid about a a campaign in NYC to reduce doorings. Here's a link to the article:LINK Perhaps we can follow NYC's example? Check out this nifty decal:

Permalink Reply by April on October 18, 2012 at 3:37am

Also here is an excellent PSA on dooring from the Washington Area Bicycle Association.

Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on October 18, 2012 at 10:08am

Question 5 is only letting me select one choice in each priority row, and there are 7 choices to prioritize.  Could you fix this?  Thanks!

Permalink Reply by Pam B on October 18, 2012 at 10:15am

April, I've also been thinking we should have something like that. I've specifically been thinking of a sticker or other item to be placed on the actual door handle inside the car, so drivers would see it and be reminded every time they go to open the door, until it eventually became second nature to check.

April said:

I just found this article on The Grid about a a campaign in NYC to reduce doorings. Here's a link to the article:LINK Perhaps we can follow NYC's example? Check out this nifty decal:

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on October 18, 2012 at 10:44am

You want it on the window not the door handle.  Nobody looks at a door handle when they open a car door; manufactures put a lot of effort into making their location intuitive.  When people exit a cab or car they are looking towards where they will be going through the window as the door opens.  Plus a sticker on the door is in a position where people will be looking at it most of the ride.


Pam B said:

April, I've also been thinking we should have something like that. I've specifically been thinking of a sticker or other item to be placed on the actual door handle inside the car, so drivers would see it and be reminded every time they go to open the door, until it eventually became second nature to check.

April said:

I just found this article on The Grid about a a campaign in NYC to reduce doorings. Here's a link to the article:LINK Perhaps we can follow NYC's example? Check out this nifty decal:

Permalink Reply by Pam B on October 18, 2012 at 11:08am

Ah yes, the door window would be better. I had thought that in this photo it was on the windshield, which would be a silly spot for it. I hadn't thought of the door window. Perhaps both the door window and handle would be ideal, to cover instances where people actually do glance at the handle and not the window. 

Permalink Reply by Richard on October 18, 2012 at 11:15am

Personally, I've used that icon as my profile image on various social media sites (including this one). A few people have asked me about it, allowing me to educate circles around me.

Permalink Reply by Gold Coast Fixed on October 18, 2012 at 11:20am

Do you guys ever see those commercials where friends are talking in a car and it looks like an advertisement for something else but then the car gets nailed by another vehicle and then the words "Didn't see that coming?" pop up across the screen? I think they're a PSA for seat belts or maybe an ad for car insurance. I feel a commercial that played out the same way with someone getting doored by a distracted commuter would produce shock value and raise awareness.

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