Hit & Run SUV vs Cyclists in Four San Francisco Attacks

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Permalink Reply by Jessica on June 8, 2010 at 5:09pm

Hahahaha, stay away from my family's Prius. My parent's flip their butts out the window, and it's got a NRA sticker on the back window. I drive it like it's stolen, and make it a game to see how *LITTLE* I can run the electric (ie: beat the shit out of it) I'm the only one in the family with a clean record for the past year, and *le gasp* I drive a Grand Cherokee. Clark, I *really* feel sorry for you. So 'accepting' and a 'new age thinker'. *snort*

I got buzzed by a dually the other day. I was a little peeved, but he didn't see me, had no where to move over to, and had a full haywagon behind him (couldn't stop). He flipped his hazards as an apology. I better watch out for those red neck, hill jack, country jerks, eh? Or maybe I could realize I wasn't in an idea spot, and he was helpless.

But I'll just go ahead and make a generalization... I don't like duallys anyways.

Whatever, dood.

PS: my penis is HUGE. =P

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 8, 2010 at 5:27pm

The van or my peep?

I like one but not the other...

Jeff Schneider said:

Only if you like it. Otherwise, the size of your peep must be determined based on some other ridiculous stereotype...

notoriousDUG said:

So this means because I have to drive a van for work I have a small peep?

Jeff Schneider said:

Yes.
Michael Perz said:

Ah, there it is. I somehow must have missed it the first time.

Why does nearly everyone that decries ownership of larger vehicles invariably link the tendency to size variations in male genitalia? The claim is always that larger vehicle choices are indicative of compensation for smaller, allegedly insufficient genitals. Should I read this to mean that large male genitals are a superior trait to possess? Is it ultimately desirable to inflict physical pain on your intimate partner with superhuman length and girth and hence achieve dominant male status? Riddle me this, progressives.

Clark said:

Can you really imagine a Prius driver driving as fast and aggressively as most SUV's? Two different personalities and penis sizes.

Permalink Reply by Old Tom on June 8, 2010 at 7:47pm

Acusing others of compensating is some people's way of.........compensating.

Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on June 8, 2010 at 9:12pm

I don't think that could have been said any better.

Old Tom said:

Acusing others of compensating is some people's way of.........compensating.

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on June 8, 2010 at 11:27pm

Congratulations, you win the "smallest penis" award. Hahahaha.

Jessica said:

Hahahaha, stay away from my family's Prius. My parent's flip their butts out the window, and it's got a NRA sticker on the back window. I drive it like it's stolen, and make it a game to see how *LITTLE* I can run the electric (ie: beat the shit out of it) I'm the only one in the family with a clean record for the past year, and *le gasp* I drive a Grand Cherokee. Clark, I *really* feel sorry for you. So 'accepting' and a 'new age thinker'. *snort*

I got buzzed by a dually the other day. I was a little peeved, but he didn't see me, had no where to move over to, and had a full haywagon behind him (couldn't stop). He flipped his hazards as an apology. I better watch out for those red neck, hill jack, country jerks, eh? Or maybe I could realize I wasn't in an idea spot, and he was helpless.

But I'll just go ahead and make a generalization... I don't like duallys anyways.

Whatever, dood.

PS: my penis is HUGE. =P

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on June 8, 2010 at 11:31pm

So we can't vent about aggressive and dangerous drivers here? Because you drive a truck for work?

Sorry, I bite my tongue all day long, I find it pretty piggish of you to want to deprive me one of few options for having a place to connect with like-minded people who share the same frustrations and are similarly victimized on a day-in, day-out basis for their transportation choice.

Every discussion does not have to be about you and the truck you have to drive for work.

And, FYI, when you open a communication by declaring ignorance on the part of your audience, most people don't read any further (but maybe that's your intent.)

notoriousDUG said:

Sorry but I can only view statements like that as ignorant. I understand that stereotypes often exist for a reason but that still does not mean we should perpetuate them or judge others based on that sort of thing.
I find that most people, in my experience, who ride bikes to be left leaning but I would never think to make the statements that bike riders are liberals or that they get that way after getting behind the bars of a bike. I continually hear people bemoan how they get judged as a cyclist by the generalizations people make about cyclists because of the bad behavior of a certain percentage of a certain type of cyclist; is it not exactly the same thing with you judging motorists based on the same thing?

I give SUVs a wide berth because I have had a fair amount of issue with them; they have large blind spots and are often driven by people not good at handling that large a vehicle. However, I do not make judgments about the people driving them beyond my feelings that they are making a inefficient choice. There is a very big difference between avoiding a common hazard passing judgment.

Anne Alt said:

Dug - Maybe it sounds like generalizing to you, but Clark's comment has matched up pretty well with my experience. There are certain types of cars I try to stay clear of due to past experience with typical behavior by drivers of those cars. Big SUVs, Mustangs and BMWs are high on my list of cars to avoid, right up there with cabs.

notoriousDUG said:

Christ, did you really sit down, type that out and not realize what a hateful and generalizing jerk you sound like?

Statements like that remove your right to ever be upset when people make generalizations about you because you ride a bike or do not own a car.
'Clark, fighting injustice with ignorance since 1979' Clark said:

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:

...As for the SUV remark, a f'ing Prius could run you over just as well - and be 'green' while doing it!....

Yeah, true. But I'm with those that believe SUV drivers are more hostile than drivers of smaller cars...as soon as they get behind the wheel. Just my observation, from biking around Chicago for many years. And Prius drivers are just the opposite.

Can you really imagine a Prius driver driving as fast and aggressively as most SUV's? Two different personalities and penis sizes.

Permalink Reply by steve rulz on June 9, 2010 at 12:23am

I wouldn't specifically attribute the style of vehicle to making up for inadequacies in penis size. However it does lay the foundation for such stereotypes. I can't help it but when some one (male or female) tears out of a parking lot I feel the need to point and yell "HUGE PENIS".
I suppose the same goes for bikes. The space suit and carbon %100 everything lays the foundation for me to yell out "Lance Armstrong" when people blast by me in traffic.
Granted this is a generalization. I have been equally impressed (or not) with people driving a rusted out Ford Tempo or riding a Huffy.
If you some how find fault with what I am saying it's probably due to small penis/boob size.

Permalink Reply by Moc Artsy on June 9, 2010 at 8:33am

A man on a Huffy is a man secure about the dimensions of his masculinity.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 9, 2010 at 9:16am

There is a big difference between 'This jerk in an SUV almost hit me and I think he's a jerk.' and 'People who drive SUVs are violent, aggressive and have inferior genitals.'

I am the last person who is going to get in the way of people complaining; complain about drivers all you want and I'll be right there with you because as a driver I can assure you at least 73.7% of the people out there behind the wheel have not a clue. However, when you, or anyone else, start to make generalizations about personality, genitals or other personal matters based on what people drive or their choice to drive I am going to take issue with it.

There are people who ride fixed gears who ride like dongs, don't wear helmets, never have lights and are obnoxious. Does this make it OK to say that all people who ride fixed gears are risk takers and unsafe?



H3N3 said:

So we can't vent about aggressive and dangerous drivers here? Because you drive a truck for work?
Sorry, I bite my tongue all day long, I find it pretty piggish of you to want to deprive me one of few options for having a place to connect with like-minded people who share the same frustrations and are similarly victimized on a day-in, day-out basis for their transportation choice.
Every discussion does not have to be about you and the truck you have to drive for work.

And, FYI, when you open a communication by declaring ignorance on the part of your audience, most people don't read any further (but maybe that's your intent.)

notoriousDUG said:

Sorry but I can only view statements like that as ignorant. I understand that stereotypes often exist for a reason but that still does not mean we should perpetuate them or judge others based on that sort of thing.
I find that most people, in my experience, who ride bikes to be left leaning but I would never think to make the statements that bike riders are liberals or that they get that way after getting behind the bars of a bike. I continually hear people bemoan how they get judged as a cyclist by the generalizations people make about cyclists because of the bad behavior of a certain percentage of a certain type of cyclist; is it not exactly the same thing with you judging motorists based on the same thing? I give SUVs a wide berth because I have had a fair amount of issue with them; they have large blind spots and are often driven by people not good at handling that large a vehicle. However, I do not make judgments about the people driving them beyond my feelings that they are making a inefficient choice. There is a very big difference between avoiding a common hazard passing judgment.

Anne Alt said:

Dug - Maybe it sounds like generalizing to you, but Clark's comment has matched up pretty well with my experience. There are certain types of cars I try to stay clear of due to past experience with typical behavior by drivers of those cars. Big SUVs, Mustangs and BMWs are high on my list of cars to avoid, right up there with cabs.

notoriousDUG said:

Christ, did you really sit down, type that out and not realize what a hateful and generalizing jerk you sound like?

Statements like that remove your right to ever be upset when people make generalizations about you because you ride a bike or do not own a car.
'Clark, fighting injustice with ignorance since 1979' Clark said:

Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:

...As for the SUV remark, a f'ing Prius could run you over just as well - and be 'green' while doing it!....

Yeah, true. But I'm with those that believe SUV drivers are more hostile than drivers of smaller cars...as soon as they get behind the wheel. Just my observation, from biking around Chicago for many years. And Prius drivers are just the opposite.

Can you really imagine a Prius driver driving as fast and aggressively as most SUV's? Two different personalities and penis sizes.

Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on June 9, 2010 at 9:32am

So you're saying people who blast by you in traffic in racing kit only have one testicle? :)

steve rulz said:

The space suit and carbon %100 everything lays the foundation for me to yell out "Lance Armstrong" when people blast by me in traffic.

Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on June 9, 2010 at 9:46am

Guys - The personal attacks and crudeness have gone on way too long, and are against the principles of this forum. Please knock it off NOW!!!

To get back to the actual topic, I believe we've agreed in the past that SUVs and other large vehicles have a greater potential to kill or injure cyclists and peds due to their size and weight (= greater force on impact). Whether an SUV driver appears to be malicious (like the driver in this news story), is distracted by cell phone or screaming children, or is simply an inept driver, the threat to cyclists and peds is much greater than it would be if that driver were in a much smaller vehicle.

Sometimes a driver who *appears* aggressive to someone on the outside may actually be distracted, and we may have no way of knowing. Perception does not always match the full reality of the situation. At times we may need to make assumptions to keep ourselves safe on the roads.

These mini buses tend to have poor sight lines and huge blind spots. That's a good thing to keep in mind when we're around them in traffic.

P.S. I had intended to delete the genitalia reference from my last response, as I did NOT agree with that part of the comment I was responding to.

Permalink Reply by Joel on June 9, 2010 at 11:43am

I agree with Anne; let's get back to the real problem here: the asshole plowing into cyclists for fun. Usually I'm against "cruel and unusual punishment", but I wouldn't mind if they let him volunteer as a weekly speed bump for bmx races for a couple decades.

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